From: Ian Blaney (ian.blaney@gmail.com)
Date: Sat Sep 01 2007 - 12:41:51 ART
I hope you are not THAT friendly Josh
Just like your hand. Always available. OOOeerrr Missus.
OK sorry no more childish smut from me. Back to studying the joys of CSC.
Ian
On 9/1/07, joshua lauer <jslauer@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> oh come on! I'm a friendly guy, really!
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> > Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 16:00:00 +0200
> > From: ian.blaney@gmail.com
> > To: jslauer@hotmail.com
> > Subject: Re: Dynagen folks...
> > CC: darklordrouter@gmail.com; scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com;
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >
> > Hey Josh
> >
> > I don't fancy sitting next to you on a long plane journey!!!
> >
> > Just like your hand. Always available. OOOeerrr Missus.
> >
> > Ian
> >
> > P.S (Sorry, couldn't resist that cheesy entry)
> >
> >
> > On 9/1/07, josh lauer <jslauer@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I Totally agree with you Darth or is it Darth Spanker? (Sorry,
> couldn't
> > > resist that cheesy entry)
> > >
> > > Dynamips is so convenient you can fit it on a laptop, so when your on
> a
> > > plane or wherever you can configure routers..it's always available!
> Just
> > > like your hand!
> > >
> > >
> > > Josh
> > > CCIE 16024
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "darth router" <darklordrouter@gmail.com>
> > > To: "Scott Vermillion" <scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com>
> > > Cc: "Cisco certification" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:04 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Dynagen folks...
> > >
> > > > You guys are going it all wrong. You have to fight analogy with
> analogy.
> > > >
> > > > (Even if you arent a virgin, sometimes you would just rather whack
> off)
> > > =
> > > > DYNAMIPS!
> > > >
> > > > I had a full CCIE lab, sold it, recouped money, and dynamips is much
> > > much
> > > > more efficient as far as building topologies and changing things.
> > > >
> > > > bwahahahhaha!
> > > >
> > > > On 9/1/07, Scott Vermillion <scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I'll take this a step further Joe (and maybe you have a good
> answer, I
> > > >> don't presuppose with any degree of certainty, but I can suspect):
> > > >>
> > > >> Other than some of the text that flies by during the boot sequence,
> if
> > > >> the Brians secretly redirected you to a rack where the routers were
> all
> > > >> Dynamips instances (excepting the ISR, which Dynagen does not
> emulate
> > > as
> > > >> of this time), how would you know they had done that, exactly?
> Would
> > > it
> > > >> be the "feel" perhaps? The "force" maybe?
> > > >>
> > > >> I'll tell you one way you might notice: I can boot a router
> instance
> > > on
> > > >> this Mac Mini in a matter of a few seconds! I get "press return to
> get
> > > >> started" in a very small fraction of the time I do when booting a
> > > >> hardware router. Other than that and the aforementioned text thing,
> > > I'm
> > > >> not sure how you'd ever even know sitting from afar?
> > > >>
> > > >> -------- Original Message --------
> > > >> Subject: RE: Dynagen folks...
> > > >> From: Scott Vermillion <scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com>
> > > >> Date: Fri, August 31, 2007 10:38 pm
> > > >> To: Cisco certification <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > >>
> > > >> I am a true Dynamips/Dynagen believer and have built my lab prep
> > > >> "rack"
> > > >> around it/them. Please explain, Joe, how I will fail the CCIE lab
> > > >> because of it ("nothing else can prepare you for the real thing")?
> > > >> What
> > > >> is it about that "feel" that makes the difference (can you go
> "feel"
> > > >> the
> > > >> routers during the practical? Can you "feel" the routers in that
> > > >> remote
> > > >> rack?)?
> > > >>
> > > >> This has the potential to become the next "CCIE vs. college degree"
> > > >> topic, me thinks. It's probably not a very good use of bandwidth,
> > > >> come
> > > >> to think of it LOL, but I can't resist asking you to elaborate on
> > > >> these
> > > >> seemingly unfounded generalizations. I would prefer that you answer
> > > >> with
> > > >> "I have hardware routers and I also run Dynamips/Dynagen on a
> machine
> > > >> of
> > > >> sufficient horsepower, and here are the things I can do on the
> former
> > > >> that I can't do on the latter *that matter in the lab* (i.e. don't
> > > >> tell
> > > >> me about toggling the power switch...yawn...you can't do that in
> the
> > > >> lab
> > > >> anyway by all accounts I've ever heard).
> > > >>
> > > >> I'll start, going the opposite direction:
> > > >>
> > > >> I run Dynamips/Dynagen on a machine of sufficient horsepower, and I
> > > >> can
> > > >> directly capture traffic from a router interface into a .cap file
> and
> > > >> scrutinize every one and zero using open source WireShark. When I
> > > >> want
> > > >> to do that w/ physical routers, I have to use Ethernet (no serial)
> > > >> and
> > > >> set up a span port on a switch or put a hub in between the two
> > > >> routers,
> > > >> with a machine running WireShark hanging off of the hub (and I'm
> > > >> obviously in HDX at this point, which means the test environment is
> > > >> different than the non-test environment). Otherwise, I'm limited to
> > > >> only
> > > >> debug. I, of course, acknowledge that you're limited to only debug
> in
> > > >> the lab, but in your preparation for the lab, it's powerful to have
> > > >> such
> > > >> a tool at your disposal so that you can truly understand what's
> going
> > > >> on
> > > >> under the hood when you see certain debug output.
> > > >>
> > > >> BTW, I'm told Juniper has this capability to write .cap files on
> > > >> physical
> > > >> routers, but I cannot personall y verify. I have never heard of
> such
> > > >> a
> > > >> capability on Cisco routers, but I'd love to be proven wrong.
> > > >>
> > > >> There are more, of course, but I've already stated many of them in
> > > >> other
> > > >> recent threads and posts...
> > > >>
> > > >> -------- Original Message --------
> > > >> Subject: Dynagen folks...
> > > >> From: "Joseph Brunner" <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> > > >> Date: Fri, August 31, 2007 9:53 pm
> > > >> To: "'Cisco certification'" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > >>
> > > >> Nothing feels as good as the real thing. And else nothing can
> prepare
> > > >> you
> > > >> for the real thing.
> > > >>
> > > >> (Remember if you only have had sex with a condom, your still a
> > > >> virgin, LOL)
> > > >>
> > > >> Check out the Brian's racks!
> > > >>
> > > >> http://www.affirmedsystems.com/photos/IERACKS.JPG
> > > >>
> > > >> Rack12R6#sh vers
> > > >>
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> > > >>
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