RE: Failed Again

From: abderrahim sadki (a_sadki1@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon Aug 20 2007 - 12:46:09 ART


well... I dont totally agree with that.

Dont get me wrong im a huge fan of IE and even intend to use them for my CCIE
sp, but I think the problem may not necessarily be in the workbooks.

Maybe you need to check your understanding of the technologies and blueprint
topics.

I blame myself for my 2 failed attempts because i underestimated the exam and
thought I could get away with going through the workbook without really having
a deep knowledge behind.

You can buy all the vendor's WB on the market, but without good understanding
of the blueprint topics, I dont see the benefit of it.

my 2 cents.
Abderrahim
> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:27:28 +0300> From: muhammad.nasim@gmail.com> To:
jcarr@enventis.com> Subject: Re: Failed Again> CC: ccielab@groupstudy.com> >
Go a head and buy Internworkexpert : )> > Hope this will helps: )> > On
8/20/07, Joe Carr (Enventis) <jcarr@enventis.com> wrote:> >> > Well I think I
figured out a way to pay for this lab again. I am going> > to take out a 401k
loan to cover the cost of 2 more lab attempts and $1k> > in study material.>
>> > I would like to buy another lab workbook and some rack time. What book> >
should I get? I have used IPExpert and I have not been a huge fan of> > there
stuff. I have also used NLI for the past few years along with> > Narbik's
soup-to-nuts book and that was great but I would like to try> > something
different (a new perspective).> >> > Joe> >> > -----Original Message-----> >
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of> > Joe
Carr (Enventis)> > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 9:50 AM> > To:
ccielab@groupstudy.com> > Subject: RE: Failed Again> >> > It's true that I
have been working on this test since 2003.> >> >> >> > I would like to take
the exam again and I know I am very close to> > passing but I just cannot
afford it right now. If money was not the> > problem I would just head back
every 30 days until I got my numbers. My> > work was paying for me to take it
and this was the last one they were> > going to cover.> >> >> >> > Joe> >> >>
>> > ________________________________> >> > From: Narbik Kocharians
[mailto:narbikk@gmail.com]> > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 9:35 AM> > To:
Guyler, Rik> > Cc: Joe Carr (Enventis); ccielab@groupstudy.com> > Subject: Re:
Failed Again> >> >> >> > Joe, just the fact that you finished three hours
earlier and tested and> > went over your configuration should tell you that
you were ready and you> > knew the stuff, you got out feeling good. I
personally think that the> > reason you failed is because you misinterpreted
the questions, you> > basically did them one way whereas, they wanted it done
in another way.> >> > What you are NOT telling people is that you took few
attempts and then> > got busy and just started again; I honestly would try
till I get it.> > Some are not good test takers but they are excellent
engineers.> >> >> >> > On 8/17/07, Guyler, Rik <rguyler@shp-dayton.org>
wrote:> >> > Joe...8 times? Man, I feel REALLY bad for you! I know you must
be> > terribly disappointed but I can empathize with your decision. That's a>
> lot of time and money and sacrifice to take the lab that many times. I> >
applaud your determination to this point as I don't know if I could have> >
continued on that long.> >> > Maybe this is just one of those "testing" things
where somebody is an> > ace on a subject but just doesn't test well on it. I
know some real> > "rain men"> > just like that. I have to think that even if
you don't have the paper> > to show for your efforts that at least the work
you put into studying> > has made you a much stronger Cisco engineer and
networker in general.> >> > Anyway, maybe you'll change your mind after some
of the disappointment> > has worn off. If so then hopefully you'll be back to
the group. If not> > then we wish you well with whatever you decide to do.
;-)> >> > Rik> >> > -----Original Message-----> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
[mailto: nobody@groupstudy.com> > <mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com> ] On Behalf
Of Joe Carr (Enventis)> > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 9:39 AM> > To:
ccielab@groupstudy.com> > Subject: Failed Again> >> > I took my lab for the
8th time yesterday and I left feeling pretty good> > about my attempt but when
the score report came out it was a fail.> > During the lab I was able to
finish all configurations 3 hours early and> > then checked and double checked
all the requirements. I thought I nailed> >> > Switching, IGP, and EGP but my
scores were very low in the IGP section.> > The proctors at the location where
I took my lab were not that very> > helpful.> > In fact one of them was
downright terrible. I like to ask for> > clarification on all items I am
unsure about and every time I went to> > this proctor to ask questions he
would roll his eyes and let out a sigh.> > It was almost as if I was bothering
him to ask questions! By the end of> > the day I would come to him with my two
options to configure a certain> > task and he would just tell me that I could
do it both ways and not> > loose points.> > Well I now believe that cost me at
least a few points.> > Overall I am not happy with the CCIE track and I think
I am going to> > throw in the towel because I can no longer afford to keep
taking this> > exam and> >> > failing.> >> >> >> > Joe> >> >



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