From: Narbik Kocharians (narbikk@gmail.com)
Date: Mon Aug 20 2007 - 11:40:51 ART
If you are asking this question because you think creating aliases will save
time, then you should think a little deeper and calculate, if you use the
aliases at the end of 8 hour lab you would probably save 1 minute (If that).
I use couple and only couple NOT to save time but sometimes it gets very
annoying to mistype some of the commands like "config t" which i use "cc"
and "Clear ip route *" which i use "cir". That's it.
On 8/20/07, Josef A <josefnet@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I believe aliases can be useful in the lab if you do not type fast. It's
> even more useful if you use them consistently in your practice labs, this
> way, it becomes second nature when taking the lab. The Proctor may ask you
> to remove them at the end of the lab.
>
> Using aliases can also give a sense of preparedness before the lab, at
> least
> you know what useful show or debug commands you intend to use during the
> lab. The exam could be stressful, anything that will give you a little
> psychological edge should be used. It should not be a debate as to whether
> you use them in production or not.
>
> Thanks
> Josef
>
>
> On 8/20/07, darth router <darklordrouter@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > You guys quit player hating on alias users. :P Hate the game! Hate the
> > game!
> >
> >
> > It can save you time and stress on your hands. If you type fast, so
> what,
> > now you type even faster with aliases. I do not know how often I have to
> > type show ip int br or, show run int. I do those obsessively to check
> and
> > double check, and check again my interfaces. I only use them for lab
> > practice. Yea, the shortcuts are easy, but the one character shortcut
> > alias
> > is even easier :P I would say hitting one key, verses many is faster. I
> > think we can all conclude that is fact. I type really damn fast, and
> > sometimes screw up my syntax when I cannot tab out a command. Using "do"
> > with a few common aliases helps me out a lot for speed. Of course I
> think
> > it
> > is a huge waste of time building aliases for bgp commands, ipv6, etc..
> > Chances are you will only use those commands a few times, while you
> might
> > use the show commands hundreds of times.
> >
> > DR
> >
> > On 8/20/07, Ramy Sisy <rsisyie@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I used aliases at my early preparation but I did not feel that it add
> > any
> > > extra value so I continued without it till now.
> > > I believe that for whom who believe in aliases to speed their speed
> are
> > > wrong as you need to speed your thinking speed not your writing speed.
> > > I got my lab in Dubai and there was little delay between writing
> > commands
> > > and showing it in the terminal but I was able to clear my exam first
> > > attempt.
> > >
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> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > subodh.rawat@wipro.com
> > > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 12:40 AM
> > > To: rjaouen@gmail.com; Richard.Dumoulin@vanco.fr
> > > Cc: julio.carrasco@ya.com; joe@affirmedsystems.com;
> > ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: RE: RE : ok, be honest...
> > >
> > > So much of hoopla...
> > >
> > > My question is to all those whom have passed CCIE lab......Is it
> > > possible to clear CCIE without using Aliases?
> > >
> > > I would expect only CCIEs (#) to answer this to make life easy for
> CCIE
> > > aspirants.
> > >
> > > Subodh
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > R. Jaouen
> > > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 12:55 PM
> > > To: Richard Dumoulin
> > > Cc: Julio Carrasco; Joseph Brunner; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Re: RE : ok, be honest...
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I believe that SecureCRT is used to connect into equipements during
> the
> > > lab.
> > >
> > > There is a keymap feature into it that should be better than aliases,
> > > isn't it ?
> > >
> > > Just my $0.02
> > >
> > > RJ
> > > On 8/20/07, Richard Dumoulin <Richard.Dumoulin@vanco.fr> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Problem in my opinion is when you need to troubleshooting a real
> > > > network in which you should not configure your own aliases; you then
> > > > need to get rid of your habits I guess
> > > >
> > > > -- Richard
> > > >
> > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > De : nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] Envoyi :
> > > > Monday, August 20, 2007 7:35 AM @ : Joseph Brunner Cc :
> > > > ccielab@groupstudy.com Objet : Re: ok, be honest...
> > > >
> > > > I type pretty fast, but anyway I use some aliases:
> > > >
> > > > sri show run interface
> > > > sir show ip route
> > > > sii show ip interface brief
> > > > soi sh ip ospf interface
> > > > sone show ip ospf neighbor
> > > > sei show ip eigrp interface
> > > > sene show ip eigrp neighbor
> > > > scdp show cdp neighbor
> > > > sbgp sh ip bgp summ
> > > > srb show run | begin
> > > > srin show run | include
> > > >
> > > > I know those are a many aliases to use, but when you get comfortable
> > > > using them, it saves time for you.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Joseph Brunner" <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> > > > To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 5:21 AM
> > > > Subject: ok, be honest...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Last time I went to RTP to ATTEMPT (being the keyword) the kids
> > > > > there around me blasted like 25 alias into each device the SECOND
> > > > > the proctor let us get on our computers.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Do any of you do this?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you really need an alias for something so lame as "show ip
> eigrp
> > > > > neighbor"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > How many times do think you are going to type that in the lab?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm just wondering if this is the norm, or is it a bootcamp thing?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I personally like "command discretion" where right before I use a
> > > > command > I
> > > > > remember all the similar commands, and their inter-relationship.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Joe
> > > > >
> > > > >
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