From: Scott Vermillion (scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com)
Date: Fri Aug 17 2007 - 20:24:48 ART
Honestly, the "few years of exper" part is going to prevent me from
offering an accurate answer, as I don't have the pulse of the market
quite down to that level of detail (and I don't have that number, LOL, so
it's not as though I can speak from experience wrt local CCIE billing
rates). What I can tell you is that I left W2 status and incorporated
about 2.5 yrs ago. I have been certified CCNP/CCDP for probably six
years and have a good number of years more than that "in the business"
under my belt. I can tell you that in my sleepy little city of 500,000
next to the mountains, I'm apparently doing as good or better than CCIEs
in LA, according to the range you earlier mentioned. Perhaps there's
just a over-abundance of CCIEs chasing after work in that particular
area? And I wasn't just being humorous. California is Colorado's #1
source of imports by a very large margin, and "tech" is the leading
industry that brings us those imports. Texas is #2...
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Contract Position in Los Angeles area
From: "Narbik Kocharians" <narbikk@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, August 17, 2007 4:14 pm
To: "Scott Vermillion" <scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com>
Cc: "Craig Tompkins" <sidalo@gmail.com>, "Joseph Brunner"
<joe@affirmedsystems.com>, "Andrew Shin" <mr.dude@gmail.com>,
ccielab@groupstudy.com, "Larry Letterman (lletterm)"
<lletterm@cisco.com>
What do CCIEs with few years of exper. make?
On 8/17/07, Scott Vermillion <scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com> wrote:
No wonder so many California big city types have been showing up
here in CO!! With a CCNP/CCDP it's possible to earn a W2
hourly wage within the range you're talking about below
(definitely towards the lower end of that range, but within that
range nonetheless)...
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Contract Position in Los Angeles area
From: "Narbik Kocharians" < narbikk@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, August 17, 2007 3:51 pm
To: "Larry Letterman (lletterm)" < lletterm@cisco.com>
Cc: "Craig Tompkins" <sidalo@gmail.com>, "Joseph Brunner"
<joe@affirmedsystems.com>, "Andrew Shin" < mr.dude@gmail.com>,
ccielab@groupstudy.com
I live in LA and the hourly rate for a CCIE for a long term
contract is
anywhere from 45 - 100 per hour. 100 per hour requires lots
of experiance.
On 8/17/07, Larry Letterman (lletterm) < lletterm@cisco.com>
wrote:
>
> Go check house prices in LA then..
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto: nobody@groupstudy.com]
On Behalf Of
> Narbik Kocharians
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 3:20 PM
> To: Craig Tompkins
> Cc: Joseph Brunner; Andrew Shin; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Contract Position in Los Angeles area
>
> This is NOT a bad pay for a NP or even a CCIE that just
starting with
> very little exp.
>
> On 8/17/07, Craig Tompkins < sidalo@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> > Is this hostility leftover from your 8th attempt?
> >
> > The base pay yes is 50 x 2080 = 104,000 yearly assuming
no overtime.
> > Yes you are right that after providing their own
insurance, that the
> > position paying that amount on a contracting basis in the
LA area is a
>
> > little low. You could have pointed this out, hile being a
little more
>
> > respectful and professional.
> >
> > --
> > Craig Tompkins
> > CCIE #16921
> >
> > On 8/17/07, Joseph Brunner < joe@affirmedsystems.com>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry, but $50 an hour is hardly $100k per year... and
from that you
> > want
> > > me
> > > to buy
> > >
> > > -business liability insurance
> > > -business errors & omissions insurance (usually
required to get the
> > first)
> > > -the employers 7.2% share of social security (on the
first $97,000)
> > > -my own health insurance -contribute to my own 401k.
> > >
> > > I don't say this lightly, but go $#ck yourself. Do you
think anyone
> > > any good is going to do that job for about $60k a year?
> > >
> > > -Joe
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto: nobody@groupstudy.com]
On Behalf
>
> > > Of Andrew Shin
> > > Sent: Friday, August 1 7, 2007 2:36 PM
> > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Contract Position in Los Angeles area
> > >
> > > Hi all, I'm forwarding this for a friend. I'll also
post this on
> > > the
> > job
> > > board, but I'm not sure how many people check that.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > 1+ year local contract (hourly consultancy 50/hr range)
in the Los
> > Angeles
> > > area (South Bay)
> > > It's with a well established and well known global
company and has
> > > the likelihood of extending for a long time.
> > >
> > > Network Engineer
> > > Mid to Senior level NW Engineer who has large corporate
NW
> > > engineering experience.
> > > WAN/LAN, VOIP.
> > > 7-10 years of NW Engineering experience Experience
working within an
>
> > > environment that is comprised of Unix, Windows, and
Mainframe (need
> > > to have worked with all three environments) Experience
providing
> > > proof of concept and presenting design and
recommendations to team
> > > members and management.
> > > Provide 3rd level support.
> > > Experience with Cisco 2600-7200 routers and Cisco 350
switches. E
> > > Experience with Firewall, PIX, VPN 3000 Concentrator,
ATM, and video
>
> > > conferencing.
> > > Professional with good communication abilities
> > >
> > > Please contact matthew.chontos@ispace.com
> > >
> > >
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>
> --
> Narbik Kocharians
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