From: Larry Letterman \(lletterm\) (lletterm@cisco.com)
Date: Fri Aug 17 2007 - 20:19:05 ART
Joe,
at least in CO and TX they can afford to have a nice house on that
money...lets start an off topic on this issue.. :)
________________________________
From: Scott Vermillion [mailto:scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com]
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 6:10 PM
To: Narbik Kocharians
Cc: Craig Tompkins; Joseph Brunner; Andrew Shin;
ccielab@groupstudy.com; Larry Letterman (lletterm)
Subject: RE: Contract Position in Los Angeles area
No wonder so many California big city types have been showing up
here in CO!! With a CCNP/CCDP it's possible to earn a W2 hourly wage
within the range you're talking about below (definitely towards the
lower end of that range, but within that range nonetheless)...
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Contract Position in Los Angeles area
From: "Narbik Kocharians" <narbikk@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, August 17, 2007 3:51 pm
To: "Larry Letterman (lletterm)" <lletterm@cisco.com>
Cc: "Craig Tompkins" <sidalo@gmail.com>, "Joseph
Brunner"
<joe@affirmedsystems.com>, "Andrew Shin"
<mr.dude@gmail.com>,
ccielab@groupstudy.com
I live in LA and the hourly rate for a CCIE for a long
term contract is
anywhere from 45 - 100 per hour. 100 per hour requires
lots of experiance.
On 8/17/07, Larry Letterman (lletterm)
<lletterm@cisco.com
<http://email.secureserver.net/pcompose.php?aEmlPart=0&type=replyall&fol
der=INBOX&uid=22#Compose> > wrote:
>
> Go check house prices in LA then..
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
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der=INBOX&uid=22#Compose> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com
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der=INBOX&uid=22#Compose> ] On Behalf Of
> Narbik Kocharians
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 3:20 PM
> To: Craig Tompkins
> Cc: Joseph Brunner; Andrew Shin;
ccielab@groupstudy.com
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> Subject: Re: Contract Position in Los Angeles area!
>
> This is NOT a bad pay for a NP or even a CCIE that
just starting with
> very little exp.
>
> On 8/17/07, Craig Tompkins <sidalo@gmail.com
<http://email.secureserver.net/pcompose.php?aEmlPart=0&type=replyall&fol
der=INBOX&uid=22#Compose> > wrote:
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> > Is this hostility leftover from your 8th attempt?
> >
> > The base pay yes is 50 x 2080 = 104,000 yearly
assuming no overtime.
> > Yes you are right that after providing their own
insurance, that the
> > position paying that amount on a contracting basis
in the LA area is a
>
> > little low. You could have pointed this out, hile
being a little more
>
> > respectful and professional.
> >
> > --
> > Craig Tompkins
> > CCIE #16921
> >
> > On 8/17/07, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com
<http://email.secureserver.net/pcompose.php?aEmlPart=0&type=replyall&fol
der=INBOX&uid=22#Compose> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry, but $50 an hour is hardly $100k per year...
and from that you
> > want
> > > me
> > > to buy
> > >
> > > -business liability insurance
> > > -business errors & omissions insurance (usually
required to get the
> > first)
> > > -the employers 7.2% share of social security (on
the first $97,000)
> > > -my own health insurance -contribute to my own
401k.
> > >
> > > I don't say this lightly, but go $#ck yourself. Do
you think anyone
> > > any good is going to do that job for about $60k a
year?
> > >
> > > -Joe
> > >!
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
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der=INBOX&uid=22#Compose> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com
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der=INBOX&uid=22#Compose> ] On Behalf
>
> > > Of Andrew Shin
> > > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 2:36 PM
> > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
<http://email.secureserver.net/pcompose.php?aEmlPart=0&type=replyall&fol
der=INBOX&uid=22#Compose>
> > > Subject: Contract Position in Los Angeles area
> > >
> > > Hi all, I'm forwarding this for a friend. I'll
also post this on
> > > the
> > job
> > > board, but I'm not sure how many people check
that.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > 1+ year local contract (hourly consultancy 50/hr
range) in the Los
> > Angeles
> > > area (South Bay)
> > > It's with a well established and well known global
company and has
> > > the likelihood of extending for a long time.
> > >
> > > Network Engineer
> > > Mid to Senior level NW Engineer who has large
corporate NW
> > > engineering experience.
> > > WAN/LAN, VOIP.
> > > 7-10 years of NW Engineering experience Experience
working within an
>
> > > environment that is comprised of Unix, Windows,
and Mainframe (need
> > > to have worked with all three environments)
Experience providing
> > ! > pro of of concept and presenting design and
recommendations to team
> > > members and management.
> > > Provide 3rd level support.
> > > Experience with Cisco 2600-7200 routers and Cisco
350 switches. E
> > > Experience with Firewall, PIX, VPN 3000
Concentrator, ATM, and video
>
> > > conferencing.
> > > Professional with good communication abilities
> > >
> > > Please contact matthew.chontos@ispace.com
<http://email.secureserver.net/pcompose.php?aEmlPart=0&type=replyall&fol
der=INBOX&uid=22#Compose>
> > >
> > >
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