From: Digital Yemeni (digital.yemeni@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Jun 24 2007 - 01:23:32 ART
"So next day my bootcamp started and i was introduced
to 2 CCIE R/S Fail guys and they became my trainer
from there on. I found that they were complete peice
of shit" yeeeeeha!! :)
I'm lost of words!! BUT,,, it happened A LOT that i've seen many of the
"complete piece
of shit" things moving around!! ;-)
On 6/24/07, Darby Weaver <darbyweaver@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> If you live and train in India - look out - there are
> sharks in the waters.
>
>
> =====================================================
> Topic: CCIE Frauds,Bangalore Training Centers ---
> rahulk posted 10-15-2006 09:30 PM CT (US)
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> CCIE Troubles ?
> Dear All,
>
> I am hopeful that this article will be helpful for all
> the CCIE Aspirants.I am Sure it would give you insight
> knowledge of rewards and
> troubles assocaited in the process of Becoming a CCIE
> in India.
>
> I started my journey 2 years back to become a CCIE in
> Security. Working in a Technical Call Center in Delhi
> somebody told me the salaries CCIE
> are getting and i was game for it.I just wanted to get
> some high paying job and wanted to get out of the
> night shifts in BPO Business. I did my CCNA myself
> as i found it very easy to read the concepts .CCNA was
> not enough game for me so i started preparing for CCNP
> .This time also no money so books were the
> only trainer. I realised that i am pretty good in the
> knowledge and had absolutely no hands on experience.
> My Good luck got me a Job in Cisco TAC India and
> i joined as VPN Specailist.Again Night shift jobs but
> this was different ,i learnt a lot about VPN and
> advance networks and devices like PIX,VPN
> CONCENTRATOR,CISCO
> ASA,CISCOACS ,Wireless Networks etc. Within 9 months i
> joined a dubai based company for a package of 12 Lkahs
> that was pretty good .By this time i passed CCIE
> Security Written(which is no achievement thanks to
> Testking). Before that i never bought any book of CCIE
> Lab as they were all too expensive and there is
> absolutely no book on ccie
> seurity without a US $$$ Price. Now in Dubai ,i was
> able to afford all the required stuff. I bought my
> first book on CCIE Security in Dubai .It was the most
> famous book by yousuf Bhaiji
> however contains lot of mistakes too.But overall i
> liked the book.First month of Going through those Labs
> was just too difficult.They are really very tough Lab
> .Then i bough a workbook
> from Trinetnt through web and this workbook was just
> amazing. (It said Trinetnt has to close down there
> CCIE training company after major losses).
>
> Now next 2 months were just amazing ,i did a lot of
> exercises and felt really confident. I realized that
> this is the right time to attempt exam. My company got
> me a Visa
> for Brussels and i went for the Lab. Wow what an
> amazing experience .It was just so simple Lab when i
> first looked at it but when i started doing the lab
> and completed
> over 80% ,i knew i failed badly. Its a test that
> checks your knowledge upto the Nose. As a Old VPN TAC
> engineer i knew a lot of VPN and security but lab was
> a combination
> of hardcore routing issues,complex vpn built on
> routing and a hell lot of technologies breaking what
> you created in first 6 hours.
>
> Life changed after this .I knew i needed a bootcamp
> training or forget about CCIE. I already lost
> 45000+60000+40000=145000 in travelling to Brussels and
> lab exam attempt etc. I wanted to go to some good
> training company in US however my visa got rejected so
> i opted for Bangalore. I went to a Training company
> in Bangalore who had big advertisement in News Paper
> as best CCIE Trainer and it contains come CCIE Number
> of his students.No other add contains 4 CCIE Numbers
> so i opted for this.
>
> MY CCIE Bootcamp:- I wanted to go for CCIE Security
> bootcamp but looking at my knowledge the trainer
> suggested he can only give training for R/S .He knew
> that
> i am a really bad Security Guy so opted for a safe
> passage that he will not take a CCIE Security batch
> till the time ,he is certified.I liked his honesty.I
> gave him 125,000
> as fee as he takes the full money in advance before
> starting the bootcamp. Training center was full of
> certificates of this Guy.He had almost all
> certififcations possible in
> the world ,MCSE,CCNA,SAP,PRORGAMMING THINGS TO CCIE
> R/S. Not my concern ,i was more interested in getting
> a good training rather then investigative journalism.
>
> So next day my bootcamp started and i was introduced
> to 2 CCIE R/S Fail guys and they became my trainer
> from there on. I found that they were complete peice
> of shit
> and thier knowledge explained to me why they failed.
> However i already paid the money so no fault of
> thiers. Then i tried to forge a good relationship with
> these guys and came to
> know the real story. This institute was full of
> freshers who just completed BTECH/BE or diploma from
> other institutes in the country.Most of them enrolled
> into CCIE
> R/S program and failed thier first attempt. I tried to
> calculate the cost with then CCIE Training=1.25
> Lakhs,Exam Fee=60000 ,Trip to Dubai =25000 (Travel and
> Accomodation for 2 days)
> as there are always no dates in Bangalore for a long
> time.
> So the total cost comes to 2.10 Lakhs and all of them
> spent around 18 month in Bangalore WITH A DREAM OF
> Becoming CCIE. Now they had no choice then become a
> CCIE
> Trainer with a salary as stipend of RS. 5000 PM.They
> had no money to for the next exam attempt and nobody
> offers them a good job as they are just Tesking
> Written CCIE's.
>
> Now the story of those 5 CCIE's who passed in there
> 2nd and 3rd attempts. They all shared some things with
> each other and became paper CCIE Lab certified however
> None of them
> has got a job yet as they are just plain shit and
> Expertise expected out of a CCIE is Huge. Technical
> Interview expectations from a CCIE are just complex .
>
> I knew that i am in Wrong hands and wanted to fly from
> there asap so i went to another CCIE School in
> Bangalore to enquire however before enterning there i
> met a very old friend.
> He told me his story that this training company does
> not have a single CCIE Trainer and they are even not
> capable of running CCNA level Training but because of
> big website publicity on Google they are fooling a lot
> of Guys.This was run by some notorius guy . company is
> hbfbites.com
>
> Next thingi did was to fly back to Dubai in the middle
> of so called bootcamp however it was too late ,My
> company hired a CCIE Lab certified guy as they
> expected from me and
> showed me a good looking Pink Slip. Now What
> Next....................I was no where. I had no
> money,no job and no failth. I will soon post next part
> of my CCIE journey soon....
> In the mean time beware of these Bangalore type
> Training centers who does not produce anything but
> become a ccie themselves by asking the students whole
> exam content.
>
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-- Best Regards! Digital, CCIE# to be assigned by Cisco when it collects enough $$ out of me! :p
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