From: Gary Duncanson (gary.duncanson@googlemail.com)
Date: Sun Jun 24 2007 - 04:31:13 ART
I bet the dumped written pass didn't help him much either.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Digital Yemeni" <digital.yemeni@gmail.com>
To: "Darby Weaver" <darbyweaver@yahoo.com>
Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 5:23 AM
Subject: Re: CCIE Fraud Story: Exposed
> "So next day my bootcamp started and i was introduced
> to 2 CCIE R/S Fail guys and they became my trainer
> from there on. I found that they were complete peice
> of shit" yeeeeeha!! :)
>
> I'm lost of words!! BUT,,, it happened A LOT that i've seen many of the
> "complete piece
> of shit" things moving around!! ;-)
>
> On 6/24/07, Darby Weaver <darbyweaver@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> If you live and train in India - look out - there are
>> sharks in the waters.
>>
>>
>> =====================================================
>> Topic: CCIE Frauds,Bangalore Training Centers ---
>> rahulk posted 10-15-2006 09:30 PM CT (US)
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> CCIE Troubles ?
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I am hopeful that this article will be helpful for all
>> the CCIE Aspirants.I am Sure it would give you insight
>> knowledge of rewards and
>> troubles assocaited in the process of Becoming a CCIE
>> in India.
>>
>> I started my journey 2 years back to become a CCIE in
>> Security. Working in a Technical Call Center in Delhi
>> somebody told me the salaries CCIE
>> are getting and i was game for it.I just wanted to get
>> some high paying job and wanted to get out of the
>> night shifts in BPO Business. I did my CCNA myself
>> as i found it very easy to read the concepts .CCNA was
>> not enough game for me so i started preparing for CCNP
>> .This time also no money so books were the
>> only trainer. I realised that i am pretty good in the
>> knowledge and had absolutely no hands on experience.
>> My Good luck got me a Job in Cisco TAC India and
>> i joined as VPN Specailist.Again Night shift jobs but
>> this was different ,i learnt a lot about VPN and
>> advance networks and devices like PIX,VPN
>> CONCENTRATOR,CISCO
>> ASA,CISCOACS ,Wireless Networks etc. Within 9 months i
>> joined a dubai based company for a package of 12 Lkahs
>> that was pretty good .By this time i passed CCIE
>> Security Written(which is no achievement thanks to
>> Testking). Before that i never bought any book of CCIE
>> Lab as they were all too expensive and there is
>> absolutely no book on ccie
>> seurity without a US $$$ Price. Now in Dubai ,i was
>> able to afford all the required stuff. I bought my
>> first book on CCIE Security in Dubai .It was the most
>> famous book by yousuf Bhaiji
>> however contains lot of mistakes too.But overall i
>> liked the book.First month of Going through those Labs
>> was just too difficult.They are really very tough Lab
>> .Then i bough a workbook
>> from Trinetnt through web and this workbook was just
>> amazing. (It said Trinetnt has to close down there
>> CCIE training company after major losses).
>>
>> Now next 2 months were just amazing ,i did a lot of
>> exercises and felt really confident. I realized that
>> this is the right time to attempt exam. My company got
>> me a Visa
>> for Brussels and i went for the Lab. Wow what an
>> amazing experience .It was just so simple Lab when i
>> first looked at it but when i started doing the lab
>> and completed
>> over 80% ,i knew i failed badly. Its a test that
>> checks your knowledge upto the Nose. As a Old VPN TAC
>> engineer i knew a lot of VPN and security but lab was
>> a combination
>> of hardcore routing issues,complex vpn built on
>> routing and a hell lot of technologies breaking what
>> you created in first 6 hours.
>>
>> Life changed after this .I knew i needed a bootcamp
>> training or forget about CCIE. I already lost
>> 45000+60000+40000=145000 in travelling to Brussels and
>> lab exam attempt etc. I wanted to go to some good
>> training company in US however my visa got rejected so
>> i opted for Bangalore. I went to a Training company
>> in Bangalore who had big advertisement in News Paper
>> as best CCIE Trainer and it contains come CCIE Number
>> of his students.No other add contains 4 CCIE Numbers
>> so i opted for this.
>>
>> MY CCIE Bootcamp:- I wanted to go for CCIE Security
>> bootcamp but looking at my knowledge the trainer
>> suggested he can only give training for R/S .He knew
>> that
>> i am a really bad Security Guy so opted for a safe
>> passage that he will not take a CCIE Security batch
>> till the time ,he is certified.I liked his honesty.I
>> gave him 125,000
>> as fee as he takes the full money in advance before
>> starting the bootcamp. Training center was full of
>> certificates of this Guy.He had almost all
>> certififcations possible in
>> the world ,MCSE,CCNA,SAP,PRORGAMMING THINGS TO CCIE
>> R/S. Not my concern ,i was more interested in getting
>> a good training rather then investigative journalism.
>>
>> So next day my bootcamp started and i was introduced
>> to 2 CCIE R/S Fail guys and they became my trainer
>> from there on. I found that they were complete peice
>> of shit
>> and thier knowledge explained to me why they failed.
>> However i already paid the money so no fault of
>> thiers. Then i tried to forge a good relationship with
>> these guys and came to
>> know the real story. This institute was full of
>> freshers who just completed BTECH/BE or diploma from
>> other institutes in the country.Most of them enrolled
>> into CCIE
>> R/S program and failed thier first attempt. I tried to
>> calculate the cost with then CCIE Training=1.25
>> Lakhs,Exam Fee=60000 ,Trip to Dubai =25000 (Travel and
>> Accomodation for 2 days)
>> as there are always no dates in Bangalore for a long
>> time.
>> So the total cost comes to 2.10 Lakhs and all of them
>> spent around 18 month in Bangalore WITH A DREAM OF
>> Becoming CCIE. Now they had no choice then become a
>> CCIE
>> Trainer with a salary as stipend of RS. 5000 PM.They
>> had no money to for the next exam attempt and nobody
>> offers them a good job as they are just Tesking
>> Written CCIE's.
>>
>> Now the story of those 5 CCIE's who passed in there
>> 2nd and 3rd attempts. They all shared some things with
>> each other and became paper CCIE Lab certified however
>> None of them
>> has got a job yet as they are just plain shit and
>> Expertise expected out of a CCIE is Huge. Technical
>> Interview expectations from a CCIE are just complex .
>>
>> I knew that i am in Wrong hands and wanted to fly from
>> there asap so i went to another CCIE School in
>> Bangalore to enquire however before enterning there i
>> met a very old friend.
>> He told me his story that this training company does
>> not have a single CCIE Trainer and they are even not
>> capable of running CCNA level Training but because of
>> big website publicity on Google they are fooling a lot
>> of Guys.This was run by some notorius guy . company is
>> hbfbites.com
>>
>> Next thingi did was to fly back to Dubai in the middle
>> of so called bootcamp however it was too late ,My
>> company hired a CCIE Lab certified guy as they
>> expected from me and
>> showed me a good looking Pink Slip. Now What
>> Next....................I was no where. I had no
>> money,no job and no failth. I will soon post next part
>> of my CCIE journey soon....
>> In the mean time beware of these Bangalore type
>> Training centers who does not produce anything but
>> become a ccie themselves by asking the students whole
>> exam content.
>>
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> Digital, CCIE# to be assigned by Cisco when it collects enough $$ out of
> me!
> :p
>
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