From: Gary Duncanson (gary.duncanson@googlemail.com)
Date: Tue Jun 19 2007 - 08:07:23 ART
Architect smacks of those roles/titles clung onto by folks who looked down
at all those certified engineers CNE/MCSE etc climbing the ranks the last 10
years ;)
I can see plenty of room for working on integration and design though
particularly mixed environment integration/migration stuff.
However I do hope we don't end up with a new glass ceiling with the rest of
the certs relegated to 'support'. Many 'consultants' without certs were
terrorized by the support peeps getting a solid education thanks in no small
part to vendor education tracks allied to experience over the last 10 years.
Many of these went on to design roles and rightly so.
We seem to have plenty of certs as it is and those with the experience are
finding it harder to find the time to keep up with more and more tracks
because of their increasingly timeconsuming responsibilities in the field.
We will have to see how it goes!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Morris" <smorris@ipexpert.com>
To: <colin@2cups.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 6:05 AM
Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Internetwork Architect ?
> The name just isn't getting me. An Architect can mean anything from a
> glorified designer to more advanced stuff. Cisco hasn't really embraced
> this moniker before, so it'll be hard to fit it in.
>
> The "master" certs they were talking about could bring that more into
> play,
> but who knows. I was amazed they appear to be exploring the re-release of
> the Design CCIE. I think there were all of four people who actually got
> that the first go-around!
>
> Whaddya do? Watch for the announcements!
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> colin@2cups.com
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 11:25 PM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Internetwork Architect ?
>
> From the rumors I have heard running around is that you will have to have
> 3
> CCIE's to attempt and there will be a board interview.
> From what I have heard.. that sounds pretty advanced to me.
>
> Regards,
> Colin McNamara
> CCIE #18233
> (858)927-4515
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> longer"
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>
>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Internetwork Architect ?
>> From: "Edison Ortiz" <edisonmortiz@gmail.com>
>> Date: Mon, June 18, 2007 2:12 pm
>> To: "Ronnie Angello" <ronnie.angello@gmail.com>, "Keith Foster"
>> <keith.foster@gmail.com>, "Greg Wendel" <gwendel@gmail.com>, "Cisco
>> certification" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>>
>> I think the CCIA will be less advanced.
>>
>>
>> On 6/18/07, Ronnie Angello <ronnie.angello@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > So do you guys think that they are going to bill the new cert(s) as
>> more or
>> > less advanced than CCIE?
>> >
>> > On 6/18/07, Keith Foster <keith.foster@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Yeah, I filled out that survey this morning...interesting.
>> > >
>> > > On 6/18/07, Greg Wendel <gwendel@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > These are some questions from a recent Cisco survey:
>> > > >
>> > > > How would you describe the job role and skills a person
>> certified as a
>> > > > Cisco
>> > > > Certified Internetwork Architect should have? Please write your
>> answer
>> > > > below.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > How would you describe the job role and skills a person
>> certified as a
>> > > > Cisco
>> > > > Certified Master Internetwork Architect should have? Please
>> write your
>> > > > answer below.
>> > > >
>> > > > How would you describe the job role and skills a person
>> certified as a
>> > > > Cisco
>> > > > Certified Network Infrastructure Architect should have? Please
>> write
>> > > your
>> > > > answer below.
>> > > >
>> > > > How would you describe the job role and skills a person
>> certified as a
>> > > > Cisco
>> > > > Certified Master Network Architect should have? Please write
>> your answer
>> > > > below.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
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>> > > > Springfield VA, 22153
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