From: Gregory Gombas (ggombas@gmail.com)
Date: Tue Jun 19 2007 - 08:47:27 ART
If you ask me CCDE sounds too close to CCDA and doesn't impart a sense
of guru status as Master Architect does.
On 6/19/07, Gary Duncanson <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Architect smacks of those roles/titles clung onto by folks who looked down
> at all those certified engineers CNE/MCSE etc climbing the ranks the last 10
> years ;)
>
> I can see plenty of room for working on integration and design though
> particularly mixed environment integration/migration stuff.
>
> However I do hope we don't end up with a new glass ceiling with the rest of
> the certs relegated to 'support'. Many 'consultants' without certs were
> terrorized by the support peeps getting a solid education thanks in no small
> part to vendor education tracks allied to experience over the last 10 years.
> Many of these went on to design roles and rightly so.
>
> We seem to have plenty of certs as it is and those with the experience are
> finding it harder to find the time to keep up with more and more tracks
> because of their increasingly timeconsuming responsibilities in the field.
>
> We will have to see how it goes!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Morris" <smorris@ipexpert.com>
> To: <colin@2cups.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 6:05 AM
> Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Internetwork Architect ?
>
>
> > The name just isn't getting me. An Architect can mean anything from a
> > glorified designer to more advanced stuff. Cisco hasn't really embraced
> > this moniker before, so it'll be hard to fit it in.
> >
> > The "master" certs they were talking about could bring that more into
> > play,
> > but who knows. I was amazed they appear to be exploring the re-release of
> > the Design CCIE. I think there were all of four people who actually got
> > that the first go-around!
> >
> > Whaddya do? Watch for the announcements!
> >
> >
> > Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, JNCIE
> > #153, CISSP, et al.
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > colin@2cups.com
> > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 11:25 PM
> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Internetwork Architect ?
> >
> > From the rumors I have heard running around is that you will have to have
> > 3
> > CCIE's to attempt and there will be a board interview.
> > From what I have heard.. that sounds pretty advanced to me.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Colin McNamara
> > CCIE #18233
> > (858)927-4515
> > "The difficult we do immediately, the impossible just takes a little
> > longer"
> >
> >
> >
> >> -------- Original Message --------
> >> Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Internetwork Architect ?
> >> From: "Edison Ortiz" <edisonmortiz@gmail.com>
> >> Date: Mon, June 18, 2007 2:12 pm
> >> To: "Ronnie Angello" <ronnie.angello@gmail.com>, "Keith Foster"
> >> <keith.foster@gmail.com>, "Greg Wendel" <gwendel@gmail.com>, "Cisco
> >> certification" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >>
> >> I think the CCIA will be less advanced.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 6/18/07, Ronnie Angello <ronnie.angello@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > So do you guys think that they are going to bill the new cert(s) as
> >> more or
> >> > less advanced than CCIE?
> >> >
> >> > On 6/18/07, Keith Foster <keith.foster@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Yeah, I filled out that survey this morning...interesting.
> >> > >
> >> > > On 6/18/07, Greg Wendel <gwendel@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > These are some questions from a recent Cisco survey:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > How would you describe the job role and skills a person
> >> certified as a
> >> > > > Cisco
> >> > > > Certified Internetwork Architect should have? Please write your
> >> answer
> >> > > > below.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > How would you describe the job role and skills a person
> >> certified as a
> >> > > > Cisco
> >> > > > Certified Master Internetwork Architect should have? Please
> >> write your
> >> > > > answer below.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > How would you describe the job role and skills a person
> >> certified as a
> >> > > > Cisco
> >> > > > Certified Network Infrastructure Architect should have? Please
> >> write
> >> > > your
> >> > > > answer below.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > How would you describe the job role and skills a person
> >> certified as a
> >> > > > Cisco
> >> > > > Certified Master Network Architect should have? Please write
> >> your answer
> >> > > > below.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
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