From: Andy (and123and@googlemail.com)
Date: Thu Jun 14 2007 - 11:48:04 ART
thanks Ben...
On 14/06/07, Ben <bmunyao@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Andy,
>
> I believe if there is a transparent switch in the path between server and
> client, you only need "vtp version 2" on the transparent switch, for vlans
> to be relayed to client through vtp.
>
> After that, you then need to add on the transparent switch vlans that are
> in use on the client switch, to avoid breaking spanning tree. Vlans not used
> on client need not be added to trnsparent switch.
>
> HTH
>
> Ben
>
>
>
>
> On 6/14/07, Andy <and123and@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks all, in trying to come up with a base level rule when approaching
> > the
> > switching section I am gonna try the following 3 step rule.
> >
> > 1. If switches are client/server and in same VTP domain then set up
> > trunking
> > (in fact set up trunking on all switches first), then vtp, then add in
> > vlans
> > on the server (write vlans into notepad and copy in to server), check
> > they
> > have propogated to clients.This gets my vlans propogated and tests
> > vtp/trunking. If not propogating then their may a transparent switch in
> > the
> > switching path, move to step 2.
> >
> > 2. Add in vlans (from notepad) to transparent switches, they may or may
> > not
> > be needed on the transparent switch but they may be in the switching
> > path
> > from a server to a client therefore needed for spanning tree instance.
> > If
> > there was a transarent switch in the switching path between a client and
> > a
> > server then check vlans are now propogating.
> >
> > 3. Add in specific "local" vlans on the transparent switch only.
> >
> > With 4 switches there can be a lot of sceanrios with the vtp modes, Im
> > sure
> > this base rule will adapt but its a start.
> >
> > Thanks
> > -A
> >
> > On 13/06/07, Brian McGahan < bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > The particular goals for the actual lab will be spelled out in
> > > the lab booklet. You can safely assume however that at a minimum your
> > > goal is to get connectivity between all of the devices as outlined in
> > > the logical topology diagram. If you have switches in the transit
> > path
> > > that are in transparent mode then it is implied that they must have
> > the
> > > VLAN configured in order to have a forwarding instance of
> > spanning-tree
> > > for that broadcast domain.
> > >
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > > Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593 (R&S/SP)
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> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Cecil Wilson [mailto: Cecil.Wilson@flextronics.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 12:35 PM
> > > To: Brian McGahan; Andy
> > > Cc: Sadiq Yakasai; Angelo De Guzman; Group Study (E-mail)
> > > Subject: RE: Switching Stategy
> > >
> > > Hello
> > >
> > > what if we have a mixture of VTP server, client and also
> > >
> > > Transperent
> > >
> > > Or what is its all transparent, then I guest we would config the
> > VLAN
> > >
> > > on all switch?
> > >
> > > I have a similar problem
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for inputs
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > Of
> > >
> > > Brian McGahan
> > >
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 12:23 PM
> > >
> > > To: Andy
> > >
> > > Cc: Sadiq Yakasai; Angelo De Guzman; Group Study (E-mail)
> > >
> > > Subject: RE: Switching Stategy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If the VLANs span multiple switches then there's no way to test
> >
> > >
> > > that they are actually working without trunking configured. At some
> > >
> > > point in the lab you're going to have to test your configurations
> > >
> > > regardless. By building the network in a structured fashion and
> > testing
> > >
> > > your configurations as you go along you'll cut down on the amount of
> > >
> > > time you need to spend troubleshooting in the long run.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593 (R&S/SP)
> > >
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> > >
> > >
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> > > ________________________________________
> > >
> > > From: Andy [mailto:and123and@googlemail.com]
> > >
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 12:00 PM
> > >
> > > To: Brian McGahan
> > >
> > > Cc: Sadiq Yakasai; Angelo De Guzman; Group Study (E-mail)
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: Switching Stategy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Brian, what about vlans, would you do the trunking section, vtp
> >
> > >
> > > and then add vlans. I was thinking of adding in all vlans via notepad
> > to
> > >
> > > each switch then trunk, then vtp?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Onlu I am uncertain as to wether all switches should have all vlans
> > >
> > > configed, sure would save time, but may be overconfiguration...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 13/06/07, Brian McGahan <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > In general you should not build a broken network in the exam, or
> > >
> > > configure features out of order that disallow you from verifying them.
> > >
> > > If I were in the lab exam, and the first switching section was VTP, I
> > >
> > > would skip it and move on to trunking and then come back, since VTP
> > >
> > > can't be verified without trunking working.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593 (R&S/SP)
> > >
> > > bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > Of
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 5:50 AM
> > >
> > > To: Sadiq Yakasai
> > >
> > > Cc: Angelo De Guzman; Group Study (E-mail)
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: Switching Stategy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Sadiq
> > >
> > > yeah, but that would mean I have to configure VTP / trunking, and it
> > may
> > >
> > > be
> > >
> > > that VTP is more than one domain, meaning that I would not be able to
> > >
> > > config
> > >
> > > on one switch and propogate all VLANs to other 3 switches ( as there
> > is
> > >
> > > more than 1 VTP domain).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I am rying to establish a methodology to save time, I think:
> > >
> > > 1. Note all VLANs in ALL switches
> > >
> > > 2. Copy to notepad and apply to ALL switches
> > >
> > > 3. Config VTP, trunking etc as required.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > My concern here would be that all switches have all vlans configed
> > >
> > > wether
> > >
> > > they are being used or not, is this likely to cost me points? What
> > >
> > > methodology do you guys employ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -A
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 13/06/07, Sadiq Yakasai <sadiqtanko@gmail.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Andy,
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Dont you think configurring the VLANs on one switch and propagating
> > it
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > all to other switches is a kinda check to make sure the VTP domain
> > and
> > >
> > > > trunk ports are actually functional and carrying the traffic as they
> > >
> > > > are suposed to?
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > On 6/13/07, Andy < and123and@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Thanks Angelo, I quite like the idea of putting them in notepad
> > and
> > >
> > > > pasting
> > >
> > > > > to all the switches, I prefer to get the VLANS config'd before
> > >
> > > applying
> > >
> > > > > trunking etc, my only concern is shoud I config all the VLANs on
> > ALL
> > >
> > > > > switches.
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > ie, say we have vlan 12 and it is only used on switches 1 and 2
> > and
> > >
> > > is
> > >
> > > > being
> > >
> > > > > trunked between 1 and 2. Should I put vlan 12 on switches 3 and 4
> > as
> > >
> > > > well,
> > >
> > > > > will I lose points for this? If I can then this will save a lot of
> >
> > >
> > > time,
> > >
> > > > > else when doing labs I am finding it takes me ages to see which
> > >
> > > switch
> > >
> > > > > supports which vlan.
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > -A
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > On 13 Jun 2007 17:34:00 +0800, Angelo De Guzman <
> > >
> > > > > a.deguzman@wesolv.ph.fujitsu.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > Hi Andy,
> > >
> > > > > > This is a matter of preference. Lots of ways to do it and
> > >
> > > eventually
> > >
> > > > if
> > >
> > > > > > you
> > >
> > > > > > are practicing some vendors workbook you can develop your own
> > >
> > > > technique.
> > >
> > > > > > For me,
> > >
> > > > > > I usually enumerate them and document them on the sheet
> > provided.
> > >
> > > At
> > >
> > > > one
> > >
> > > > > > point
> > >
> > > > > > I used colors as well to differentiate.
> > >
> > > > > > Vlan name:
> > >
> > > > > > VLANA
> > >
> > > > > > VLANA correspond to VLAN 100 assigned to ports etc. etc. etc.
> > >
> > > > > > HTH,
> > >
> > > > > > Angelo De Guzman, CCIE # 16887
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > Andy (6/13/2007 5:10 PM):
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > >What is the "best" way to approach the configuring of VLANS
> > >
> > > section
> > >
> > > > of
> > >
> > > > > > the
> > >
> > > > > > >lab?
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > - Configure vlans on one switch and propagate to all other
> > >
> > > switches,
> > >
> > > > > > >assuming trunking is working
> > >
> > > > > > > - Note all vlans in notepad and copy to all switches, then
> > >
> > > config
> > >
> > > > VTP,
> > >
> > > > > > >trunking etc
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > >I am finding it is taking me a while to config each vlan on
> > each
> > >
> > > > switch,
> > >
> > > > > > >would it be easier to config all vlans on all switches (via
> > >
> > > notepad),
> > >
> > > > or
> > >
> > > > > > >will I "lose" points if I have a vlan configed on a switch that
> >
> > >
> > > is
> > >
> > > > not
> > >
> > > > > > being
> > >
> > > > > > >used. ie it shows up via "sh vlan brie" but is not being used
> > by
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > > > > > switch
> > >
> > > > > > >(configd on access port or svi) or trunked.
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > >Should ALL switches have ALL vlans configured even if they are
> > >
> > > used
> > >
> > > > or
> > >
> > > > > > not?
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > >-A
> > >
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