From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Sat Jun 09 2007 - 22:10:26 ART
It means "you broke it, you fix it". :)
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
ismail el-shalh
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 12:23 PM
To: ccielab
Subject: Re: Attack by Proctor
Hi Scott,
What does "self-induced" means?
Ismail El-Shalh :)
MMR/MDSA
----- Original Message ----
From: Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com>
To: Paul Dardinski <pauld@marshallcomm.com>; Yinglam Cheung
<ccie6961@yahoo.com>; Jinhong Im <jhim@kornet.net>
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2007 7:01:08 PM
Subject: RE: Attack by Proctor
Like most of the troubleshooting within the lab, it may have fallen under
the category of "self-induced".
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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Dardinski
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 11:27 AM
To: Yinglam Cheung; Jinhong Im
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Attack by Proctor
Hrmm.....don't remember a proctor even having the slightest interest in my
configs during any lab attempt....
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Yinglam Cheung
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 11:12 AM
To: Jinhong Im
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Attack by Proctor
I seldom wrote to the group, but the subject line caught me to take a look.
It would be interesting to know why proctor would get on your router to
check your configurations. AFAIK, proctors don't check candidates'
configs during the testing time. Did you suspect a bug and ask him to check?
I'd have asked proctor why he erased some configs if I were you.
In any case you can write to ccie@cisco.com or Cisco Certification Support
and I believe you can fill out feedbacks after finishing your lab.
Overall I feel proctors in my CCIE lab experience are very professional.
regards,
Yinglam
----- Original Message ----
From: Jinhong Im <jhim@kornet.net>
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2007 4:58:38 AM
Subject: Attack by Proctor
Hi GS,
Today I took my 4th R&S test.
After I checked all my configuration I found the proctor had changed too
many things, left about 20 minutes.
I really astonished because of too severe attacks by the proctor. He blew
out the whole BGP configuration on a switch and so many other configurations
I made. I tried to recover all them, but I couldn't have time to check it
again because the proctor was counting time. So I am not sure it all the
configurations were correct, and finally I found one missing configuration
and I couldn't be able to complete it because He was saying time was over.
I think it is too severe attack to cope.
I would like to know if there is a way to let Cisco know that there will be
few candidates to protect themselves from the attack.
Any opinion?
Regards
/JH
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