From: Lab Dude (ccielabdude@gmail.com)
Date: Thu May 03 2007 - 12:38:30 ART
Varies from job to job, group to group, physical location, project deadlines
etc. It is not 8-5 for sure. Typical Silicon valley work ethics and working
hours, nothing unusual for folks that are based out of there.
On 5/3/07, Need.To.Clear.SP <frenzeus@streamyx.com> wrote:
>
> Lab Dude,
>
> When u mean, long hours - what's the average hours per day/week?
>
> Thanks.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lab Dude" <ccielabdude@gmail.com>
> To: "Jason Carpenter" <adventureracing@gmail.com>
> Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 6:52 PM
> Subject: Re: Isn't it too late cancel?
>
>
> > Pursuing CCIE in my opinion is a personal choice, unless specifically
> > asked
> > for by your employer, which in that case I would hope the employer would
> > pick up the tab for the exam and associated expenses. You dont
> necessarily
> > have to spend your personal money on CCIE that you could possibly spend
> on
> > something else.
> >
> > Maybe benefiting from this 3 free attempts perk is a good incentive to
> > apply
> > for a job at Cisco :)
> >
> >
> > On 5/3/07, Jason Carpenter <adventureracing@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dunno sounds like 3 free lunches :) May have to work just as hard to
> >> get there but the cost is a major factor for us mortals :) 3750
> >> dollars per CCIE so if you go for all 4 thats a hellofa perk. So sorry
> >> if I dont have much sympathy, cisco isnt the only compay that works ya
> >> hard.
> >>
> >> On 5/3/07, Lab Dude <ccielabdude@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > The only advatnage that Cisco employees have is the privilege of 3
> >> *free*
> >> > attempts, which I think makes sense as a perk of working for Cisco.
> We
> >> > suffer the same as the rest of the bunch when it comes to struggling
> >> with
> >> > the lab, and we *do not* have any insider information.
> >> >
> >> > For any further attempts (i.e.4 and on-wards), Cisco employees not
> only
> >> have
> >> > to pay for the lab out of their own pocket, but also for any expenses
> >> > associated with it (airfare, hotel etc). In fact, for some roles at
> >> Cisco,
> >> > it is mandatory to have a CCIE, unlike for others pursuing it where
> it
> >> is a
> >> > 'nice to have' thing, hence it puts more pressure on some Cisco
> >> > employees preparing for CCIE.
> >> >
> >> > Hardest thing as a Cisco employee is the ability to find time to
> study
> >> for
> >> > CCIE, taking into account the work load, time pressure and long
> hours,
> >> > unlike at many other employers where people get time off to study for
> >> CCIE,
> >> > or have unlimited training budget :)
> >> >
> >> > Concluding, theres no such thing as a free lunch!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 5/3/07, Loc Pham <ccie17030@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Let look at another angle ,
> >> > > How about a proctor have booked 1 day vacation and
> >> > > cancel it in the last week ??
> >> > > After all, we are all human ... I hope ;-)
> >> > > lP.
> >> > > --- Darby Weaver <darbyweaver@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Bill,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I did not mean to imply that they necessarily have
> >> > > > it
> >> > > > any easier.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Remember - No conspiracy theory.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > But it does seem that invariably some people can
> >> > > > jump
> >> > > > ship within 30 days...
> >> > > >
> >> > > > And 4 at a time could be a coincidence...
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Perhaps I am mistaken.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I'd just like to think if a rule applies to one of
> >> > > > us,
> >> > > > it might apply to all of us.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > If I cancel my seat, I not only forfeit my money,
> >> > > > but
> >> > > > being a no-show, I would have to wait 6 months to
> >> > > > get
> >> > > > a new date. Or at least this is what it says.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I have not yet had a reason or a concern about being
> >> > > >
> >> > > > a no-show yet, but it could happen to any of us.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I would just find it hard to think it would happen
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > a lot of us and at one time.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I could be wrong.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I'm just another hopeful...
> >> > > >
> >> > > > :)
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --- jslauer@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > agreed,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > other than getting 3 free takes of the exam I can
> >> > > > > second this. I have a
> >> > > > > bunch of NCE friends that say the same things.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Josh Lauer
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > CCIE #16024
> >> > > > > CCNA,CCDP,CCIP,CCSP,CCDP,RHCE,MCSE,CEH
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > From: "Bill Mckenzie" <bmckenzie@hotmail.com>
> >> > > > > To: <darbyweaver@yahoo.com>; <ggombas@gmail.com>;
> >> > > > > <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 8:44 PM
> >> > > > > Subject: Re: Isn't it too late cancel?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > Darby,
> >> > > > > > Do you think Cisco employees studying for the
> >> > > > CCIE
> >> > > > > have some secret
> >> > > > > > advantage to achieving it over
> >> > > > > > anyone else? If so, I believe you are mistaken.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Bill Mckenzie, CCIE#16725, CCVP
> >> > > > > > Systems Engineer
> >> > > > > > Cisco Systems, Inc.
> >> > > > > > Phone: 614-425-2370
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >>From: Darby Weaver <darbyweaver@yahoo.com>
> >> > > > > >>Reply-To: Darby Weaver <darbyweaver@yahoo.com>
> >> > > > > >>To: Gregory Gombas <ggombas@gmail.com>,
> >> > > > > Cisco certification
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> >> > > > > >>Damned Cisco Employees...
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >>No suffering for losing a "FREE" seat...
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >>I wonder if they get penalized by having to wait
> >> > > > > for 6
> >> > > > > >>months like the rest of would...
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >>Hmmm....
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >>They just re-register...
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >>Take it as a warning sign...
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >>Last minute droppers know something we don't...
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >>:) :) :)
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >>But no conspiracy theory here...
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >>--- Gregory Gombas <ggombas@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >> > Just saw 4 seats open in San Jose in May -
> >> > > > > isn't it
> >> > > > > >> > too late to cancel?
> >> > > > > >> > How is that possible?
> >> > > > > >> >
> >> > > >
> >> > > === message truncated ===
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