From: Need.To.Clear.SP (frenzeus@streamyx.com)
Date: Thu May 03 2007 - 11:12:18 ART
Lab Dude,
When u mean, long hours - what's the average hours per day/week?
Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lab Dude" <ccielabdude@gmail.com>
To: "Jason Carpenter" <adventureracing@gmail.com>
Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: Isn't it too late cancel?
> Pursuing CCIE in my opinion is a personal choice, unless specifically
> asked
> for by your employer, which in that case I would hope the employer would
> pick up the tab for the exam and associated expenses. You dont necessarily
> have to spend your personal money on CCIE that you could possibly spend on
> something else.
>
> Maybe benefiting from this 3 free attempts perk is a good incentive to
> apply
> for a job at Cisco :)
>
>
> On 5/3/07, Jason Carpenter <adventureracing@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dunno sounds like 3 free lunches :) May have to work just as hard to
>> get there but the cost is a major factor for us mortals :) 3750
>> dollars per CCIE so if you go for all 4 thats a hellofa perk. So sorry
>> if I dont have much sympathy, cisco isnt the only compay that works ya
>> hard.
>>
>> On 5/3/07, Lab Dude <ccielabdude@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > The only advatnage that Cisco employees have is the privilege of 3
>> *free*
>> > attempts, which I think makes sense as a perk of working for Cisco. We
>> > suffer the same as the rest of the bunch when it comes to struggling
>> with
>> > the lab, and we *do not* have any insider information.
>> >
>> > For any further attempts (i.e.4 and on-wards), Cisco employees not only
>> have
>> > to pay for the lab out of their own pocket, but also for any expenses
>> > associated with it (airfare, hotel etc). In fact, for some roles at
>> Cisco,
>> > it is mandatory to have a CCIE, unlike for others pursuing it where it
>> is a
>> > 'nice to have' thing, hence it puts more pressure on some Cisco
>> > employees preparing for CCIE.
>> >
>> > Hardest thing as a Cisco employee is the ability to find time to study
>> for
>> > CCIE, taking into account the work load, time pressure and long hours,
>> > unlike at many other employers where people get time off to study for
>> CCIE,
>> > or have unlimited training budget :)
>> >
>> > Concluding, theres no such thing as a free lunch!
>> >
>> >
>> > On 5/3/07, Loc Pham <ccie17030@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Let look at another angle ,
>> > > How about a proctor have booked 1 day vacation and
>> > > cancel it in the last week ??
>> > > After all, we are all human ... I hope ;-)
>> > > lP.
>> > > --- Darby Weaver <darbyweaver@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Bill,
>> > > >
>> > > > I did not mean to imply that they necessarily have
>> > > > it
>> > > > any easier.
>> > > >
>> > > > Remember - No conspiracy theory.
>> > > >
>> > > > But it does seem that invariably some people can
>> > > > jump
>> > > > ship within 30 days...
>> > > >
>> > > > And 4 at a time could be a coincidence...
>> > > >
>> > > > Perhaps I am mistaken.
>> > > >
>> > > > I'd just like to think if a rule applies to one of
>> > > > us,
>> > > > it might apply to all of us.
>> > > >
>> > > > If I cancel my seat, I not only forfeit my money,
>> > > > but
>> > > > being a no-show, I would have to wait 6 months to
>> > > > get
>> > > > a new date. Or at least this is what it says.
>> > > >
>> > > > I have not yet had a reason or a concern about being
>> > > >
>> > > > a no-show yet, but it could happen to any of us.
>> > > >
>> > > > I would just find it hard to think it would happen
>> > > > to
>> > > > a lot of us and at one time.
>> > > >
>> > > > I could be wrong.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > I'm just another hopeful...
>> > > >
>> > > > :)
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --- jslauer@hotmail.com wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > agreed,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > other than getting 3 free takes of the exam I can
>> > > > > second this. I have a
>> > > > > bunch of NCE friends that say the same things.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Josh Lauer
>> > > > >
>> > > > > CCIE #16024
>> > > > > CCNA,CCDP,CCIP,CCSP,CCDP,RHCE,MCSE,CEH
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > From: "Bill Mckenzie" <bmckenzie@hotmail.com>
>> > > > > To: <darbyweaver@yahoo.com>; <ggombas@gmail.com>;
>> > > > > <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 8:44 PM
>> > > > > Subject: Re: Isn't it too late cancel?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Darby,
>> > > > > > Do you think Cisco employees studying for the
>> > > > CCIE
>> > > > > have some secret
>> > > > > > advantage to achieving it over
>> > > > > > anyone else? If so, I believe you are mistaken.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Bill Mckenzie, CCIE#16725, CCVP
>> > > > > > Systems Engineer
>> > > > > > Cisco Systems, Inc.
>> > > > > > Phone: 614-425-2370
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >>From: Darby Weaver <darbyweaver@yahoo.com>
>> > > > > >>Reply-To: Darby Weaver <darbyweaver@yahoo.com>
>> > > > > >>To: Gregory Gombas <ggombas@gmail.com>,
>> > > > > Cisco certification
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>> > > > > >>Damned Cisco Employees...
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>No suffering for losing a "FREE" seat...
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>I wonder if they get penalized by having to wait
>> > > > > for 6
>> > > > > >>months like the rest of would...
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>Hmmm....
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>They just re-register...
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>Take it as a warning sign...
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>Last minute droppers know something we don't...
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>:) :) :)
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>But no conspiracy theory here...
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>--- Gregory Gombas <ggombas@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> > Just saw 4 seats open in San Jose in May -
>> > > > > isn't it
>> > > > > >> > too late to cancel?
>> > > > > >> > How is that possible?
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > >
>> > > === message truncated ===
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