From: Joe Rinehart (jjrinehart@hotmail.com)
Date: Tue Apr 24 2007 - 11:30:48 ART
Another factor is the role...in a sales organization the compensation
element for a CCIE can be very lucrative...
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From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Darby Weaver
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 10:14 PM
To: Michael Zuo; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: OT: CCIE salary surveys
Salary's vary.
I've had friends in the Cali area making in the 60k+ for the CCNA to CCNP
level.
I've had class-mates claiming up to 110k incomes at the CCNP level - of
course they were earning their CCIE and were fast-tracking.
So 120-130k is not unnatural, but I would venture that seasoned CCIE's are
doing better in California.
However, I had several counterparts at NBC and GE and I do not recall them
saying (or the job postings) looking like they paid a lot more than my
Southeastern wages for the same or similar job description.
Same for my counterparts at 30 Rock in New York - it seems that around 90k
or so was the base starting point, followed with nice raises and bonuses.
Now maybe for the highest level positions but who is counting.
I'm in Orlando and if one does not mind the travel the ranges I am routinely
offered are in the 80-120k range
+/- some form of bonus paackage for the CCNP level
with experience. For the record, I have been asked to consider greater than
120k - so this is not out of the question either even for a CCNP - I'm sure
the position would have easily preferred a CCIE.
The travel and near-CCIE level positions are in the 110-120k + bonus range
here in my neck of the woods, but for all I know the rates can get better
for full CCIE's. - I would expect it, some of my current peers speak of
135k+ rates, but I have not seen this yet myself - but I am not yet a CCIE
either.
I've heard people in the Washington and New York areas are well paid for
their services.
I've heard that 200k+ in the Washington D.C./Virgina area are not uncommon.
I guess it comes down to one's ability to bargain and how one present's
oneself.
And recall, some positions simply only pay whatever it is the company pays
for the job role.
I've also heard that pre-sales engineers can do quite well especially in
education and government accounts.
Expect that salary survey are very general in nature.
I recall when they used to say I was underpaid and now it seems according to
them I am overpaid.
It's strange and it is a statistic.
Best thing to do, is to figure out what it costs you to live, throw in
whatever else you need like benefits, vacation, retirement, training, etc.
and go for that number +/- however much you will need to be where you need
to be financially.
Good luck!
Sorry for the long and boring email.
--- Michael Zuo <mzuo@ixiacom.com> wrote:
> Hi Group,
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> I have did a little research online: it looks like the average salary
> for CCIE's in California with a few years of experience is around 120
> to 130K range according to various surveys such as Cert Mag. Does
> anyone know how accurate are the survey numbers from personal
> experience?
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> I apologize for being off topic, this group seems to be the best place
> to ask this question :-)
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> Michael Zuo
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> CCIE #17800
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