From: Danshtr (danshtr@gmail.com)
Date: Mon Apr 16 2007 - 08:46:05 ART
if cisco will ever write concurrent 100 labs, why should they publish them?
it takes a long time to author a lab. its not an easy task, so writing 100
will be a very big effort even for ci$co.
On 4/16/07, Usman Ali <usman198@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello all Gurus ,
> I think it is very desperate for the people who are doing CCIE by studying
> .
> i am working on ccie from last 1 year and quit job only for study and my
> target to pass CCIE in three attempts ,
> if i pass end of this year what will be the market of ccie after 3 years
> when there would be more than 50000 CCIE and a few thousands with good
> knowledge ,
> it is very disappointing position
> is it better to go with IBM certification to earn IBM cert you need just
> a few configurations and once a redbook study of the technology , i
> passed IBM SAN solution desinger examine 3 years before and it is more
> easy than even CCNA and have a good market value too .
> can cisco make a huge data base of some 100 labs you will get one in
> examine or something like this to avoid the fraud .
>
> bye
>
> Usman Ali
>
> Anthony Bonilla wrote:
> > On the same note, one of the proctors in RTP was mentioning that they
> know
> > that lab exams are leaking out being that whenever Cisco releases a new
> > exam, the passing rate is real low but after two weeks or so, the
> passing
> > rate shoots up to 90% - go figure!
> >
> > When everyone in the room asked why Cisco does not do anything about it,
> he
> > replied that they can't do anything there because China has no NDA or
> > something to that affect. Or better yet, Cisco should offering this
> exam in
> > those countries to begin with but if this continues to go on and Cisco
> does
> > not do anything knowing all this is happening, you always wonder if they
> > themselves are involved as well???
> >
> > Just my 2 cents.
> >
> >
> > On 4/15/07, Darby Weaver <darbyweaver@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> What everyone on this list in a position to hire
> >> should do, could do, and ought to do with every single
> >> job candidate, CCIE notwithstanding, is set them down
> >> in front of some gear and let them show you how and
> >> why they are the person for the job...
> >>
> >> 2-3 hours in front of gear and you know whether you
> >> have a keeper or... NOT.
> >>
> >> Lots of people are passing the lab these past few
> >> years...
> >>
> >> Not all of them are quite qualified to work on a
> >> full-fledged network with "issues". I'm sure most of
> >> have worked hard and some for some years, but a few
> >> squeak by.
> >>
> >> So... if everyone here and everywhere else maintains
> >> good hiring practices, then I suspect that we will not
> >> have this problem of people passing the lab and
> >> getting digits by any means necessary.
> >>
> >> Not is they know that the cert alone is not a rubber
> >> stamp to a CCIE-Level position.
> >>
> >> However with a quick romp to the job boards and seeing
> >> postings like:
> >>
> >> CCNA required and CCIE desired... with MCSE or CNE or
> >> Unix experience and oh yes, we want the candidate to
> >> install MS SQL or MS Exchange or even handle desktop
> >> support issues and Symantec AV etc...
> >>
> >> Hmmm... What is the point...
> >>
> >> Also be careful to apply to jobs that are of a CCIE
> >> caliber as well - once you get the grail.
> >>
> >> =====================================
> >>
> >> One more thing, did anyone ever consider that maybe,
> >> just maybe, Cisco is the one putting out the "real
> >> CCIE Labs" and if they are I suppose the proctors have
> >> a lot of fun watching things not quite work for
> >> candidates whenever they pass through... Here's a
> >> little but not quite a lot...
> >>
> >> That is kind of sadistic... Especially since they may
> >> even have the names of the buyers...
> >>
> >> Hey - how many people come report back on GS and say
> >> they cannot figure out what went wrong...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hah!
> >>
> >> LOL
> >>
> >> Hmmm...
> >>
> >> Close but no cigar...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- CCIEwnaB <cciewnab@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> OK smart peeps,
> >>>
> >>> I have a friend who is currently working on her
> >>> CCNP, and keeps giving me a
> >>> hard time for not having passed the lab yet (1
> >>> failed attempt under my belt)
> >>> but I'm still hitting it hard and will be going back
> >>> in another 2 moths.
> >>>
> >>> Anyway, she's convinced that when she finishes her
> >>> last NP test she'll just
> >>> pay the $1200 to the folks who shall remian nameless
> >>> and study the "3 real
> >>> CCIE labs" and pass on the first attempt." I agree
> >>> with what's been said
> >>> here so many times before, that the cert only means
> >>> something if you truly
> >>> are an expert and have earned it. So let's not get
> >>> everyone all wound up.
> >>>
> >>> That being said, does anyone have a few stories I
> >>> can share with her, that
> >>> might be helpfull in keeping her on the "HIGH ROAD".
> >>> I keep trying to tell
> >>> her, she's going to pay $1200 for a couple useless
> >>> old files and then what,
> >>> go to the proctor on test day and say, hey this
> >>> isn't the test I was
> >>> expecting you must have made a mistake?
> >>>
> >>> I'm sure there are other folks here who have fallen
> >>> for it, please share
> >>> your experiences so my friend will see the light and
> >>> not surrender to the
> >>> dark side...she knows who she is
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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-- Best regards, Dan
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