From: Darby Weaver (darbyweaver@yahoo.com)
Date: Sun Apr 15 2007 - 23:51:29 ART
What everyone on this list in a position to hire
should do, could do, and ought to do with every single
job candidate, CCIE notwithstanding, is set them down
in front of some gear and let them show you how and
why they are the person for the job...
2-3 hours in front of gear and you know whether you
have a keeper or... NOT.
Lots of people are passing the lab these past few
years...
Not all of them are quite qualified to work on a
full-fledged network with "issues". I'm sure most of
have worked hard and some for some years, but a few
squeak by.
So... if everyone here and everywhere else maintains
good hiring practices, then I suspect that we will not
have this problem of people passing the lab and
getting digits by any means necessary.
Not is they know that the cert alone is not a rubber
stamp to a CCIE-Level position.
However with a quick romp to the job boards and seeing
postings like:
CCNA required and CCIE desired... with MCSE or CNE or
Unix experience and oh yes, we want the candidate to
install MS SQL or MS Exchange or even handle desktop
support issues and Symantec AV etc...
Hmmm... What is the point...
Also be careful to apply to jobs that are of a CCIE
caliber as well - once you get the grail.
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One more thing, did anyone ever consider that maybe,
just maybe, Cisco is the one putting out the "real
CCIE Labs" and if they are I suppose the proctors have
a lot of fun watching things not quite work for
candidates whenever they pass through... Here's a
little but not quite a lot...
That is kind of sadistic... Especially since they may
even have the names of the buyers...
Hey - how many people come report back on GS and say
they cannot figure out what went wrong...
Hah!
LOL
Hmmm...
Close but no cigar...
--- CCIEwnaB <cciewnab@gmail.com> wrote:
> OK smart peeps,
>
> I have a friend who is currently working on her
> CCNP, and keeps giving me a
> hard time for not having passed the lab yet (1
> failed attempt under my belt)
> but I'm still hitting it hard and will be going back
> in another 2 moths.
>
> Anyway, she's convinced that when she finishes her
> last NP test she'll just
> pay the $1200 to the folks who shall remian nameless
> and study the "3 real
> CCIE labs" and pass on the first attempt." I agree
> with what's been said
> here so many times before, that the cert only means
> something if you truly
> are an expert and have earned it. So let's not get
> everyone all wound up.
>
> That being said, does anyone have a few stories I
> can share with her, that
> might be helpfull in keeping her on the "HIGH ROAD".
> I keep trying to tell
> her, she's going to pay $1200 for a couple useless
> old files and then what,
> go to the proctor on test day and say, hey this
> isn't the test I was
> expecting you must have made a mistake?
>
> I'm sure there are other folks here who have fallen
> for it, please share
> your experiences so my friend will see the light and
> not surrender to the
> dark side...she knows who she is
>
>
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