From: Anthony Bonilla (anthonybonilla.ccie@gmail.com)
Date: Mon Apr 16 2007 - 00:53:33 ART
On the same note, one of the proctors in RTP was mentioning that they know
that lab exams are leaking out being that whenever Cisco releases a new
exam, the passing rate is real low but after two weeks or so, the passing
rate shoots up to 90% - go figure!
When everyone in the room asked why Cisco does not do anything about it, he
replied that they can't do anything there because China has no NDA or
something to that affect. Or better yet, Cisco should offering this exam in
those countries to begin with but if this continues to go on and Cisco does
not do anything knowing all this is happening, you always wonder if they
themselves are involved as well???
Just my 2 cents.
On 4/15/07, Darby Weaver <darbyweaver@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> What everyone on this list in a position to hire
> should do, could do, and ought to do with every single
> job candidate, CCIE notwithstanding, is set them down
> in front of some gear and let them show you how and
> why they are the person for the job...
>
> 2-3 hours in front of gear and you know whether you
> have a keeper or... NOT.
>
> Lots of people are passing the lab these past few
> years...
>
> Not all of them are quite qualified to work on a
> full-fledged network with "issues". I'm sure most of
> have worked hard and some for some years, but a few
> squeak by.
>
> So... if everyone here and everywhere else maintains
> good hiring practices, then I suspect that we will not
> have this problem of people passing the lab and
> getting digits by any means necessary.
>
> Not is they know that the cert alone is not a rubber
> stamp to a CCIE-Level position.
>
> However with a quick romp to the job boards and seeing
> postings like:
>
> CCNA required and CCIE desired... with MCSE or CNE or
> Unix experience and oh yes, we want the candidate to
> install MS SQL or MS Exchange or even handle desktop
> support issues and Symantec AV etc...
>
> Hmmm... What is the point...
>
> Also be careful to apply to jobs that are of a CCIE
> caliber as well - once you get the grail.
>
> =====================================
>
> One more thing, did anyone ever consider that maybe,
> just maybe, Cisco is the one putting out the "real
> CCIE Labs" and if they are I suppose the proctors have
> a lot of fun watching things not quite work for
> candidates whenever they pass through... Here's a
> little but not quite a lot...
>
> That is kind of sadistic... Especially since they may
> even have the names of the buyers...
>
> Hey - how many people come report back on GS and say
> they cannot figure out what went wrong...
>
>
>
> Hah!
>
> LOL
>
> Hmmm...
>
> Close but no cigar...
>
>
>
>
> --- CCIEwnaB <cciewnab@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > OK smart peeps,
> >
> > I have a friend who is currently working on her
> > CCNP, and keeps giving me a
> > hard time for not having passed the lab yet (1
> > failed attempt under my belt)
> > but I'm still hitting it hard and will be going back
> > in another 2 moths.
> >
> > Anyway, she's convinced that when she finishes her
> > last NP test she'll just
> > pay the $1200 to the folks who shall remian nameless
> > and study the "3 real
> > CCIE labs" and pass on the first attempt." I agree
> > with what's been said
> > here so many times before, that the cert only means
> > something if you truly
> > are an expert and have earned it. So let's not get
> > everyone all wound up.
> >
> > That being said, does anyone have a few stories I
> > can share with her, that
> > might be helpfull in keeping her on the "HIGH ROAD".
> > I keep trying to tell
> > her, she's going to pay $1200 for a couple useless
> > old files and then what,
> > go to the proctor on test day and say, hey this
> > isn't the test I was
> > expecting you must have made a mistake?
> >
> > I'm sure there are other folks here who have fallen
> > for it, please share
> > your experiences so my friend will see the light and
> > not surrender to the
> > dark side...she knows who she is
> >
> >
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