From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Fri Feb 09 2007 - 17:18:50 ART
Most of this conversation I'm going to stay out of... But there's no
logical problem with CCIE #12353 delivering training to CCIE #8646. At
least assuming that the lower number CCIE was going for either a
reactivation (if he let his CCIE # lapse, he'd need a lab to bring it back)
or a second/third/etc. CCIE.
I have delivered training to people with lower numbers than I have. All
that means is they got their first CCIE before I did. If I sit through one
of our Voice classes while working on my voice CCIE, technically I will be
trained by people with higher number CCIE's than I have.
So it IS possible to do that.
As for the resume, some people list everything some don't. While I may
personally find it to be more clutter than anything worthwhile, there is no
legal requirement to not list them as far as I'm aware...
Just my two cents!
Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, JNCIE
#153, CISSP, et al.
CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
IPexpert VP - Curriculum Development
IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
smorris@ipexpert.com
http://www.ipexpert.com
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Gobind
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 3:04 PM
To: Trying CCIE; Brad Ellis
Cc: Narbik Kocharians; Topass Mustpass; ali.mehdi@atosorigin-me.com;
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: 1st attempt CCIE R/S - Got my number !
Hi Brad(and other guys out there:)),
Well there are some things that I want to share about Mr. Butt and there are
some thing which I am really confused and also found something which I think
is really really weird(Correct me if im wrong in that).First of all here is
his offical website:-
http://www.gatestraining.com
http://www.netmetric-solutions.com
Some things which I found weird(Again saying,correct me if I am wrong :) )
In his second website(http://www.netmetric-solutions.com) on the left hand
side you can see the CCIE Number of the guys which took training from him
and passed the lab exam,you can see the name Michael Brady whose CCIE Number
is 8646 and Mr. Butt's CCIE Number is 12353,and I got know that he passed
his lab in 2004 and started to give training after that(For CCIE),so how can
he train a guy with CCIE Number 8646 which I think must have passed in 2002
as he started training in 2004.
Other thing I foung weird that(Source My Friend) he said in one of my
training that he had actually given training FOR CCIE for more than 8 years
and had given Bootcamp training at
:-
- IPexpert.
- ccbootcamp.
- Trinetnt
See his website for this three companies name:-
http://www.gatestraining.com/ccie.aspx#ap
(On right hand side)
Hey Brad! You are in CCBootcamp,can you tell that he used to give
training(Bootcamps) in your company and when he use to give it? Because some
guys says out here that he dint and some says he did.
Thirdly when I see his resume at his website(due to which in India many
friends of mine are like ":O,OMG! Mr Butt have so much certifications!!!!,I
wanna take training from him!",See his resume:-
http://www.khawarb.com/kbres.html
The weird thing I find in this Resume is,Instead of writing MCSE
Security,2000,2003 he had wrote MCP 2000,MCP 2003 MCSA 2000,MCSA 2003,MCSE
2000,MCSE 2003 and many others:P and also instead of writing CCIE XXXXX ,R
&S,Service Provider,Security,he has all together writing his CCNA,CCNP
etc.....Really long resume,must say that:P
Well I dont have any Harm Intention in saying all these things,but was what
I personally think,maybe his way of marketing(a special way i.e. :P.....but
kind of weird,esp about resume and the CCIE # 8646 part)dont know what you
guys think about this or maybe im seeing that in wrong way ;),waiting for
your reviews,especially from your Brad ;)
Regards,
Gobind
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dukelondon@gmail.com
> Sent: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 17:30:54 +0800
> To: brad@ccbootcamp.com
> Subject: Re: 1st attempt CCIE R/S - Got my number !
>
> Hi Brad,
>
> you are too much mate. hahahahhaha. you've got a great sense of humour.
> Havent read something this funny in a while. hahahaha, esp the kids part.
>
> Cheers!!!!!!!!!!-
>
>
> On 07/02/07, Brad Ellis <brad@ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
>>
>> I think TopAss MustPass is being a bit anal about Kwart Butt. How
>> many asses and butts does it take to pass?
>>
>> On a side note, if TopAss MustPass and Kwart Butt had kids, would you
>> name them TopAss Butt? I suppose either way, it could be a >crappy<
>> situation if the kids were a pain in the rear (or butt or ass in this
>> case...)
>>
>> lol
>> (sorry, I couldnt resist)
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Narbik Kocharians" <narbikk@gmail.com>
>> To: "Topass Mustpass" <ccie_certain@hotmail.com>
>> Cc: <ali.mehdi@atosorigin-me.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 11:50 AM
>> Subject: Re: 1st attempt CCIE R/S - Got my number !
>>
>>
>> Mr Topass how was Mr Butt's Class.
>>
>> On 2/6/07, Topass Mustpass <ccie_certain@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Ali
>>> Ali my name is Tunde from Nigeria.U made mention of Kwart Burtt
>> bootcamp.I
>>> am contemplating of attending one of this guy botcamps.Please i
>>> want
>> you
>>> give adice about him.Is a really good guy?.I want to do my Routing
>>> and Switching Lab soon.Please ur advice will be highly needed.
>>>
>>>>
>>> >Ali Sheeraz Mehdi wrote:
>>> >>Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> >>I have got my CCIE R/S lab yesterday (11th Jan 2007) in 1st
>>> >>attempt
>>> in
>>> >>Dubai. It was great and a challenging experience for me to finally
>>> get
>>> >>this
>>> >>number. I had working knowledge of Routing and Switching as part
>>> >>of
>>> my
>> 7
>>> >>year career but I had to align my experience with the exam blue
>>> >>print
>>> and
>>> >>for this I would like to thank some people who made it possible
>>> >>for
>> me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> >>Internetwork Expert for their excellent CoD and Workbook, which
>>> >>has
>>> guided
>>> >>me all the way to focus on the technology in the correct direction.
>>> First
>>> >>time I did full Vol I and II after reading some recommended books
>> (like
>>> >>Jeff
>>> >>Doyle Vol I and II, Cisco LAN Switching, white papers for QoS and
>>> some
>>> >>other
>>> >>relevant stuff), then I took CoD and I must say it has clarified
>>> >>many
>> of
>>> >>my
>>> >>practical concepts (Brians did a great job I must say), after CoD
>>> >>I
>> have
>>> >>done all the Vol I and II labs once more and trust me with a great
>>> >>difference and clear concepts.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> >>Last and the most important, I took R/S bootcamp conducted by Mr.
>> Khawar
>>> >>Butt in Synergy Professional Training Center in Dubai just 25 days
>>> before
>>> >>my
>>> >>lab date. It was very much effective for me to fill in the
>>> >>required
>>> gaps.
>>> >>Thanks to Mr. Khawar Butt for his valuable time during the
>>> >>bootcamp
>>> which
>>> >>has led me all the way to reach at this stage.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> >>I will most probably go for CCIE Service Provider but for sure
>>> >>after enjoying some days :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> >>Note:
>>>>>
>>> >>I was reading a post about Dubai Lab some days ago; it was
>>> >>perfectly
>>> fine
>>> >>although it is remote. I haven't come through any issue during the
>> exam
>>> >>and
>>> >>Proctor was very good as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> >>Good luck to all the candidates for their future exams.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> >>Thanks and Regards
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> >>Ali Sheeraz Mehdi
>>>>>
>>> >>CCIE(R&S) # 17346
>>>>>
>>> >>Technical Consultant
>>>>>
>>> >>Atos Origin
>>>>>
>>> >>Level 4, Building 14
>>>>>
>>> >>Dubai Internet City
>>>>>
>>> >>Dubai, United Arab Emirates
>>>>>
>>> >>Phone: +971-4-3901226
>>>>>
>>> >>Mobile: +971-50-4542401
>>>>>
>>>
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>> --
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>> CCSI# 30832
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