From: Darby Weaver (darbyweaver@yahoo.com)
Date: Tue Jun 13 2006 - 10:21:52 ART
Pierre-Alex,
I always preach checklist and more recently approach.
However, intuition helps as well.
You absolutely must verify everything you can. I made
some small things yesterday and try as I hard as I
could if I did not verify as I went, I would surely
fail.
Right now it is close I think and I still don't know
yet 9:15am.
I do like a checklist but, I've altered my thinking to
fit the way I work.
I do the approach with verification.
Strange enough by using the "Approach", I did not even
have to run the TCL yesterday to know I had
connectivity.
Now connectivity was not explicity required but was
implicity demanded by virtue of completing several
tasks.
I think it comes down to a combination of both in the
final analysis. Staying organized can help too.
I'll tell you during the CheckITs, I lost about 19
points on average on things in the CORE alone that
could have been avoided with simple verification.
In the IE Mock Labs, it was 22 points on average in
the CORE areas. And several points per exam due to
dependencies.
I had more time yesterday since I verified and I knew
my answers were what I wanted.
I could still benefit from speed but I spent a lot
longer on the CORE topics. Interpretation.
Whew!
You'll see.
Darby
--- Pierre-Alex <paguanel@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Darby, Petr
>
> I have been using various methods, including
> Netmaster's , Petr, and various
> methods from the newsgroup.
>
> I have also compiled a complex method from my
> experience doing labs - 3.5
> years now ....
>
> The net result is that I am taking longer and
> longer to complete even the
> simplest tasks.
>
> Running checklist after checklist in my mind has
> lead me to "analysis
> paralysis".
>
> After a long meditation on the situation last night,
> I came to the
> conclusion that I should not repress the feeling of
> knowing
>
> and always go by the checklist . If intuition is
> distilled knowledge, then
> going back to the checklist is actually going
> backward in the
>
> learning process - at least in my case.
>
> I will correct the behaviour and see if things
> improve.
>
> Thank you for the anecdotes, and comments they
> certainly got me thinking.
>
> Pierre-Alex
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Darby Weaver" <darbyweaver@yahoo.com>
> To: "Pierre-Alex" <paguanel@hotmail.com>; "Petr
> Lapukhov"
> <petrsoft@gmail.com>; "Cisco certification"
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 10:54 AM
> Subject: Re: my lab experience
>
>
> > Pierre-Alex,
> >
> > My lord,
> >
> > As you know, some people who are particularly
> > well-practiced and have done way to many labs, are
> > able to to pick up most of what may be enountered
> on a
> > lab almost instinctively.
> >
> > I sat next to a young guy at NMC-2 who passed on
> his
> > first attempt and he was a LAB-KILLER, even scored
> > 100% on one of VAL's hardest labs.
> >
> > He claims he did all but one last task in 2.5
> hours
> > and finished verifying the other before he left.
> >
> > I sat next to him for a week. He answered any
> > questions and the only thing that remotely gave
> him
> > trouble was interpretation.
> >
> > He neven used more than 8 hours. Truly a sight to
> > watch and to draw inspiration from.
> >
> > Petr is also such a guy, obviously.
> >
> > He probably looked at his diagrams, his lab
> > requirments, cleared up anything he was unsure of
> with
> > the proctor and began typing away at DEMON-SPEED
> by
> > the sounds of it.
> >
> > Finished before he knew what hit him.
> >
> > Just worry about what you can do, and do it.
> >
> > I start my own lab in just under 2.5 hours or so,
> so I
> > guess I'll see for myself if it is harder or
> easier
> > for me. :)
> >
> > --- Pierre-Alex <paguanel@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Petr,
> >>
> >> Sorry to be so insistant but you have not
> replied
> >> to my last querry?
> >>
> >> " Did you actually follow your plan (the
> thourough
> >> planning
> >> stage, followed by questioning the proctor, then
> >> implementation)
> >> or did do just went ahead from your head and did
> >> it?"
> >>
> >> The planning alone (using your method) takes me
> 1h
> >> 30 hours working at
> >> demoniac speed .
> >>
> >> I you are able to do the same in less time, it
> means
> >> that methodology wise I
> >> am doing something wrong ...
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Pierre-Alex
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Pierre-Alex" <paguanel@hotmail.com>
> >> To: "Petr Lapukhov" <petrsoft@gmail.com>; "Cisco
> >> certification"
> >> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 7:48 PM
> >> Subject: Re: my lab experience
> >>
> >>
> >> > Congratulations again Petr.
> >> >
> >> > Just curious, did you actually follow your plan
> >> (the thourough planning
> >> > stage, followed by questioning the proctor,
> then
> >> implementation)
> >> >
> >> > or did do just went ahead from your head and
> did
> >> it?
> >> >
> >> > Pierre-Alex
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Petr Lapukhov" <petrsoft@gmail.com>
> >> > To: "Cisco certification"
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >> > Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 7:07 PM
> >> > Subject: my lab experience
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Hello group,
> >> >>
> >> >> As I quickly mentioned, I passed my lab on
> June 8
> >> in Brussels :)
> >> >>
> >> >> It was much easier than I thought it would be.
> >> Actually, it took
> >> >> me only 3 hours to complete the lab...
> >> >>
> >> >> But now, how many hours did it take for me to
> >> prepare? :)
> >> >>
> >> >> To be honest, I started my lab studies on
> spring
> >> 2005. At that
> >> >> moment, I already had about 5 year of
> networking
> >> experience,
> >> >> and held CCNP/CCDP certificates. My first
> "wave"
> >> of studies
> >> >> begun with NMC's DoIT. Back in days, I planned
> to
> >> take lab on
> >> >> Fall 2005, but that plan did not work ;)
> >> >>
> >> >> After four months of intensive studies, I
> decided
> >> to cancel my lab,
> >> >> due to some personal problems :) So I took a
> >> break, and shifted my
> >> >> target to Spring-Summer 2006. At that moment I
> >> had a much better
> >> >> understanding of core R&S topics.
> >> >>
> >> >> At the same time, I realized how many things I
> >> were missing :)
> >> >> DoIT's approach is a kind of "kickstart", that
> >> makes someone feel
> >> >> frustration, facing complex topics from very
> >> beginning :)
> >> >>
>
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