From: Kumar Raja-Q16843 (Raja.Kumar@motorola.com)
Date: Tue May 16 2006 - 11:34:38 ART
I totally agree with Tony
I guess for me the pleasure of getting f_ _ked in the preparation of
CCIE is more enjoyable than CCIE number.
Getting a ready made real lab is sheer insult to the Intelligence the
CCIE commands and
The real fun part of the preparation is killed, you know what? it would
be as good as Scr_wing dead gorgeous women.
During the course of my Career, I think I have come across some of them
(the lucky CCIE number holder) as my Tech Leads, you know the fun part,
on any technical issues, once you put your foot down, they just back
off.
My current job needed a CCIE, but my boss was so nice to interview me,
gone through 5 rounds and guess what! earlier 2 CCIE's were knocked off
(may be for whatever reason) for the same position, I am being paid as
much a CCIE and there is no pressure to do CCIE, now my preparation is
sheer pleasure with my Gorgeous (ofcourse the CCIE Rack)
I didn't mean to hurt anyone, pardon me for my language though, the
topic pisses me off.
Thanks and regards,
Raja
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Tony Schaffran
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 7:14 PM
To: 'Skinner, Stephen'; Bill.McKenzie@bisys.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: How rampant is cheating for CCIE
The cheaters are usually identified in the real world pretty quickly.
The down side is that the CCIE does not speak for itself as loudly as it
use to. We have to prove our worth more these days.
If you are legit, you do not have much to worry about. The cert is
still well worth the journey.
Tony Schaffran
Network Analyst
CCIE #11071
CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
www.cconlinelabs.com
Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Skinner, Stephen
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 6:27 AM
To: 'Bill.McKenzie@bisys.com'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: How rampant is cheating for CCIE
Bill,
I also was told about this site ,
I got hold of one of there sample labs,
Hey i am curious person by nature !!
and i was shocked at how close it was.
it seems to me that there are two ways of this happening.
1.the NDA is being broken.
2.There is a leak in Cisco
i informed Cisco of this site.
and nothing was done.
the site is now more professional .leading me to believe that they are
doing good business !.
i am afraid i cannot blame this site for their ingenuity.
If Cisco know about these sites and wont do anything about them , then i
say to people who buy there products.
Good Luck !
you pays your money and you takes your choice.!!
just my honest opinion .
Regards
Stephen
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> Subject: How rampant is cheating for CCIE
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> Does anyone think this is a big issue ?
>
> I did a google search on CCIE Lab Workbooks and one of the sponsored
> links is www.cciecert.net , which seems like a bit of a shady site.
>
> It just got me thinking how many / if any actually get their
> certification by using this and if there are more sites like this
> around. Also, how would someone get exact copies of the labs? It just
> doesn't seem very likely.
>
>
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