From: Capt.Spock (capt.spock@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Jan 20 2006 - 17:03:49 GMT-3
To add topping on this topic (pile of junk), CCIE is bumped down to level 6
on the CERTS rating.
for top certifications. So if you are REALLY serious abt CCIE, 'just get
it' or else 'forget it!' (no flying numbers, no chinese tofu, no legal
battles, etc)
This link was sent as a part of CCNP news letter by CISCO.
http://certcities.com/editorial/features/story.asp?EditorialsID=95
Adios
Spock!
On 1/19/06, supernet@comcast.net <supernet@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Well I'm not a judge, I don't know if Huawei is innocent. Does it have
> anything to do with the "CCIE numbers flying"????
>
> Anyway, I was just pointing out the fact that it was a US company suing
> another US company (or joint venture).
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Church, Chuck" <cchurch@netcogov.com>
>
> > Ok. But from the URL you sent:
> >
> > "Huawei was even accused of distributing some user manuals that appeared
> > to be exact copies of Cisco manuals. The two companies have since ended
> > the litigation following Huawei's announcement that it would make
> > changes to the products named in the lawsuit."
> >
> > If Huawei is innocent, why are they changing their products named in the
> > lawsuit???
> >
> >
> > Chuck Church
> > Lead Design Engineer
> > CCIE #8776, MCNE, MCSE
> > Netco Government Services - Design & Implementation Team
> > 1210 N. Parker Rd.
> > Greenville, SC 29609
> > Home office: 864-335-9473
> > Cell: 864-266-3978
> > cchurch@netcogov.com
> > PGP key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x4371A48D
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: supernet@comcast.net [mailto:supernet@comcast.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 12:11 PM
> > To: Church, Chuck; rosy bird; Cisco certification
> > Subject: RE: CCIE Numbers are Flying!
> >
> >
> > Well a stupid woman sued Wendy's for that stupid finger doesn't mean she
> > was right. You can sue anyone you want but it doesn't mean you are
> > right.
> >
> > On the other hand, I thought Huawei's founder and CEO is an American??
> > Plus, they team with 3com. I believe 3Com is a US company...
> > http://news.com.com/2100-1036_3-5108237.html
> >
> >
> > -------------- Original message --------------
> > From: "Church, Chuck"
> >
> > > Because Huawei uses Cisco's source code, manuals, and CLI,
> > according to
> > > the lawsuit!!
> > > http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/corp_012303.html
> > >
> > >
> > > Chuck
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> > Behalf Of
> > > rosy bird
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 4:54 AM
> > > To: supernet
> > > Cc: Lee Donald; Hoogen; Larry Letterman (lletterm); Edwards,
> > Andrew M;
> > > ccieall@comcast.net; Scott Morris; Montiean; Leigh Harrison;
> > Rick;
> > > Gustavo Novais; CCIEin2006; Cisco certification
> > > Subject: Re: CCIE Numbers are Flying!
> > >
> > > Thats the best part..China has Huwawei....then why do they
> > need Cisco
> > > Professionals...:-))..
> > & gt;
> > > On 1/19/06, supernet wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Not sure about that. Most TVs, laptops, shoes or even many
> > jet and car
> > > > parts
> > > > are made in China. I don't care if they cheat but I care my
> > safety
> > > very
> > > > much
> > > > when I drive or fly...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Lee Donald [mailto:Lee.Donald@t-systems.co.uk]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:21 AM
> > > > To: rosy bird; supernet
> > > > Cc: Hoogen; Larry Letterman (lletterm); Edwards, Andrew M;
> > > > ccieall@comcast.net; Scott Morris; Montiean; Leigh Harrison;
> > Rick;
> > > Gustavo
> > > > Novais; CCIEin2006; Cisco certification
> > > > Subject: RE: CCIE Numbers are Flying!
> > > >
> > > > Fraudsters never prosper in the end, let them
> > cheat..............
> > > >
> > > > If all the Cisco networks i n China are badly configured by
> > people that
> > > > don't
> > > > really know what there doing, who cares.........
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: rosy bird [mailto:rosybird@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: 18 January 2006 10:14
> > > > To: supernet
> > > > Cc: Hoogen; Larry Letterman (lletterm); Edwards, Andrew M;
> > > > ccieall@comcast.net; Scott Morris; Montiean; Leigh Harrison;
> > Rick;
> > > Gustavo
> > > > Novais; CCIEin2006; Cisco certification
> > > > Subject: Re: CCIE Numbers are Flying!
> > > >
> > > > china is the fraud capital of the world...I guess in china
> > guys
> > > configure
> > > > the routers one after the other...R1 completely ,then R2
> > > > ...etc....:-))...Im
> > > > sure they would be getting away with it there...In china
> > everything is
> > > > possible...
> > > >
> > &g t; >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 1/18/06, supernet wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > What's wrong with that? China is Cisco's second largest
> > market.
> > > Don't
> > > > you
> > > > > know many US companies make a whole lot of $$$ there? GM?
> > Boeing?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]
> > On Behalf
> > > Of
> > > > > Hoogen
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:40 AM
> > > > > To: Larry Letterman (lletterm)
> > > > > Cc: Edwards, Andrew M; ccieall@comcast.net; Scott Morris;
> > Montiean;
> > > > Leigh
> > > > > Harrison; Rick; Gustavo Novais; CCIEin2006; Cisco
> > certification
> > > > > Subject: Re: CCIE Numbers are Flying!
> > > > >
> > > > > Something about China that i really dont like. I believe
> > 120 pas s
> > > every
> > > > > month(Total) and almost 40% of them are from there. One of
> > the guys
> > > i
> > > > came
> > > > > to know is a 17yr????
> > > > >
> > > > > Hoogen
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 1/17/06, Larry Letterman (lletterm) wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Depends how good you look in one of those short
> > dresses..:)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Larry Letterman
> > > > > > Cisco Systems Inc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> > > Behalf
> > > > Of
> > > > > > Edwards, Andrew M
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 12:13 PM
> > > & gt; > > To: ccieall@comcast.net; Scott Morris; Montiean;
> > Leigh Harrison;
> > > Rick
> > > > > > Cc: Gustavo Novais; CCIEin2006; Cisco certification
> > > > > > Subject: RE: CCIE Numbers are Flying!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So what you are saying is that I still have a chance at
> > becoming a
> > > > > > hooters waitress?!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: ccieall@comcast.net [mailto:ccieall@comcast.net]
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 8:17 PM
> > > > > > To: Scott Morris; 'Montiean'; 'Leigh Harrison'; 'Rick'
> > > > > > Cc: 'Gustavo Novais'; 'CCIEin2006'; 'Cisco
> > certification'
> > > > > > Subject: RE: CCIE Numbers are Flying!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I wonder how may ccie in the world are waitress from
> > hooters:).
> > > I'm
> > > &g t; > > wondering because one day we had lunch in hooters
> > and kind of jump
> > > on
> > > > > > the hooter's waitress and teasing at her that she's a
> > smart
> > > waitress
> > > > > > since she did the calculation for the tip so quick.
> > Then, she
> > > replied
> > > > > > "yes, I'm smart. I almost pass the CCNA if her
> > instructor was not
> > > > fired"
> > > > > > then one of the gig in our group - he's a double R&S and
> > Voice
> > > asked
> > > > her
> > > > > > what's the problem. She replied "because the instructor
> > is not
> > > good
> > > > > > enough to qualify teaching the class after 3 quarters of
> > the
> > > semester
> > > > > > had gone". We just laught and told the legacy and IPCC
> > guy in the
> > > team
> > > > > > that "you should change your career path since Cisco
> > certification
> > > is
> > > > so
> > > > > > commo nality:). Anyway, before we left Hooters the gig
> > in our team
> > > > drawn
> > > > > > a litle diagram with 2 routers connected via a serial
> > link.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Have fun for those still chasing Cisco certification:)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Don
> > > > > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > > > > > From: "Scott Morris"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well, there's 716 of those large number that have
> > multiples.
> > > Only
> > > > 117
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > three or more according to Cisco!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > >
> > http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/certified_ccies/worldwide.h
> > > > > > > tml
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Scott
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > & gt;
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Montiean [mailto:noktes@bellsouth.net]
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 12:28 PM
> > > > > > > To: Scott Morris; 'Leigh Harrison'; 'Rick'
> > > > > > > Cc: 'Gustavo Novais'; 'CCIEin2006'; 'Cisco
> > certification'
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: CCIE Numbers are Flying!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is it starting the new era for triple CCIE? So we can
> > keep fewer
> > > > > > > numbers.
> > > > > > > ;)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Monty
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Scott Morris"
> > > > > > > To: "'Leigh Harrison'" ; "'Rick'"
> > > > > > > Cc: "'Gustavo Novais'" ; "'CCIEin2006'"
> > > > > > > ; "'C isco certification'"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 11:56 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: CCIE Numbers are Flying!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > All the more reason to find something (complimentary
> > certs?
> > > Lots
> > > > of
> > > > > > > > experience? Other things?) to set yourself apart
> > from
> > > everyone.
> > > > > > > > Popularity
> > > > > > > > doesn't mean it's too common, just means lots of
> > people are
> > > > > > interested in
> > > > > > > > it. But that doesn't mean all are equal!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Scott
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> > > > Behalf
> > > > > > Of
> > > > > > > > Leigh Harrison
> > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 11:21 AM
> > > > > > > > To: Rick
> > > > > > > > Cc: Gustavo Novais; CCIEin2006; Cisco certification
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: CCIE Numbers are Flying!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I passed on 7th November 2005 and am #15331, Anthony
> > Squeira
> > > > passed
> > > > > > > > on 5th
> > > > > > > > Jan 2006 and is #15626. That was nearly 300 in just
> > under 2
> > > months
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > includes christmas break!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is there a chance of a ccie becoming common ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > LH
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Rick wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>I am #14319 and I passed on Jan. 5, 2005. That is
> > basically
> > > 3.5IE's
> > > > > > > >>per day for the year 2005.
> > > > > > > >>11 days in 2006 = 3.5 IE's per day. I think 2006
> > will be very
> > > > close
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > >>2005, just my opinion.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>just thought it would be a change of pace to post
> > this for fun
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>Rick
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > >>From: "Gustavo Novais"
> > > > > > > >>To: "CCIEin2006" ; "Cisco certifi cation"
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 9:30 AM
> > > > > > > >>Subject: RE: CCIE Numbers are Flying!
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>>Hi,
> > > > > > > >>>As long as I can tell, I was the first on
> > groupstudy this
> > > year
> > > > (not
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > >>>Cisco, I asked the proctor!) and I was 15622...
> > We've been
> > > > > > receiving
> > > > > > > >>>word of #15661... so in 11 days (counting weekend!)
> > we've had
> > > 39
> > > > > > CCIE's!
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>Gustavo Novais
> > > > & gt; > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>Cisco CCIE #15622 (R&S-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > >>>From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> > > > > > Behalf
> > > > > > > >>>Of
> > > > > > > >>>CCIEin2006
> > > > > > > >>>Sent: segunda-feira, 16 de Janeiro de 2006 15:23
> > > > > > > >>>To: Cisco certification
> > > > > > > >>>Subject: CCIE Numbers are Flying!
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>Is it just me or are CCIE's passing at a faster
> > rate with the
> > > new
> > > > > > > >>>exam
> > > > > > > >>>format than the old exam format?
> > > > > > > >>>Am I just imagining things?
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>One of my goals was to get a CCIE number below
> > 16000 but it
> > > looks
> > > > > > > >>>like
> > > > > > > >>>by May we will be well beyond that.
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>What do you think the monthly average of new CCIE's
> > is?
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >
> > > >
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