From: joshua lauer (jslauer@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Nov 10 2005 - 20:17:06 GMT-3
Tks Mate,
appreciate it!..Now time to do some drinkin to lessen the shock :)
jl
Josh Lauer
RHCE, MCSE NT/2000, CCNA, CCDA, CCDP, CCNP, CCSP, CCIP, CISSP, CEH
----- Original Message -----
From: "Guyler, Rik" <rguyler@shp-dayton.org>
To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 4:16 PM
Subject: RE: KIDS
> Hehe...congratulations Josh!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: joshua lauer [mailto:jslauer@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 4:12 PM
> To: Scott Morris; 'Leigh Harrison'; 'Brian'
> Cc: 'Dennis J. Hartmann'; 'Guyler, Rik'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: KIDS
>
> All this talk about kids must have stirred something up, either that or
> something was put into our water. We're expecting number two child in 8
> months, just found out today. Now the pressures on to pass the lab more
> than
> ever........
>
> jl
>
>
> Josh Lauer
>
> RHCE, MCSE NT/2000, CCNA, CCDA, CCDP, CCNP, CCSP, CCIP, CISSP, CEH
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Morris" <swm@emanon.com>
> To: "'Leigh Harrison'" <ccileigh@gmail.com>; "'Brian'"
> <bluvmack@gmail.com>
> Cc: "'Dennis J. Hartmann'" <dhartma5@optonline.net>; "'Guyler, Rik'"
> <rguyler@shp-dayton.org>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 2:00 PM
> Subject: RE: KIDS
>
>
>> Sounds like this would be an excellent time to play the lottery! ;)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> Leigh Harrison
>> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 1:48 PM
>> To: Brian
>> Cc: Dennis J. Hartmann; 'Guyler, Rik'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: Re: KIDS
>>
>> Couldn't agree more chaps.
>>
>> We're in the process of ivf. We had our pregnancy test last Thursday and
>> it
>> was a positive. We had that in he morning and sat in a waiting room
>> waiting
>> for the result. After that stress, sitting in the lab on Monday didn't
>> even
>> come close.
>>
>> I swear, I have the biggest smile on my face. Last week in October I
>> turned
>> 25, the week after we find out the girlfriend is pregnant, the week after
>> I
>> pass my CCIE, the week after, I'm getting spare time again. Life is
>> sweet
>> !!
>>
>>
>> Brian wrote:
>>
>>> Good point Dennis,
>>>
>>> It gets very easy to lose perspective and usually to regain it it
>>> takes a drastic or catastrophic event. Life is so quick and while it
>>> is good to have goals, faimily is always priority especially your
>>> kids. One day you wake up and they are going off to college or
>>> getting married. Each moment with them counts more than anything,
>>> cause none of us are promised tomorrow. And when I get ready to take
>>> that trip, the last thing I will be concerned with is my CCIE status.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis J. Hartmann"
>>> <dhartma5@optonline.net>
>>> To: "'Guyler, Rik'" <rguyler@shp-dayton.org>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:46 PM
>>> Subject: KIDS
>>>
>>>
>>>> I have a 10 month old baby (Johnny) and boy who's almost 4 years old
>>>> (Dennis). I feel your pain, but I'd give up a CCIE for time with
>>>> them ANY DAY!!!! Prioritize your life and live by those priorities.
>>>> Your kids don't give a RATS ASS about your certifications! If it
>>>> takes me 8 attempts and I don't have to slight my family.... SO BE
>>>> IT! :-)
>>>>
>>>> There's more important things than this CCIE medal of honor.
>>>>
>>>> That which does not kill me only makes me stronger -Nietzsche
>>>>
>>>> I'm feeling philosophical tonight....
>>>>
>>>> -Dennis Hartmann
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>>>> Of Guyler, Rik
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:31 AM
>>>> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>>> Subject: RE: It is possible!
>>>>
>>>> They do become more self-entertained the older they get but they also
>>>> get much more expensive! Ohh...I also don't have to worry about my
>>>> 2-yr old smoking, drinking, skipping school or anything else (he
>>>> doesn't do these things yet) I would frown upon. The worst thing she
>>>> does is make a mess on the floor with her toys or jump on the couch.
>>>> ;-)
>>>>
>>>> The trick is to bribe (intimidate) the 15-yr old to help take care of
>>>> the 2-yr old. Now THAT'S a challenge!
>>>>
>>>> Rik
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Scott Morris [mailto:swm@emanon.com]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:16 AM
>>>> To: 'Guyler, Rik'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>>> Subject: RE: It is possible!
>>>>
>>>> With mine, it's more of the constant need to be held, changed, fed or
>>>> some other variety of "direct connection". :) When they get older
>>>> I'm sure they'll be at least a LITTLE self-entertaining. But I have
>>>> a hard time putting off studying for several years till that happens.
>>>> So for now, it's just waiting until after 9pm.
>>>>
>>>> But yup, it's a challenge! 15 and 2? There's an interesting
>>>> combination!
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>>>> Of Guyler, Rik
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:41 AM
>>>> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>>> Subject: RE: It is possible!
>>>>
>>>> Yeah...me too. Scott Morris can attest to this as well, eh Scott?
>>>> ;-)
>>>>
>>>> It's tough to study for the lab when your little one is climbing up
>>>> your leg to get a chance to bang on the keyboard with you...or the
>>>> teenager wants to play a game of Battlefield2 with you. I have a
>>>> 15-yr old and a 2-yr
>>>> old...somebody help me! ;-)
>>>>
>>>> _____
>>>>
>>>> From: Michael Brooks [mailto:michaeljbrooks@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 3:45 PM
>>>> To: Guyler, Rik
>>>> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>>> Subject: Re: It is possible!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Congrats !
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to do both (parent & lab) at the same time. Now thats a
>>>> challenge.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> On 11/8/05, Guyler, Rik <rguyler@shp-dayton.org
>>>> <mailto:rguyler@shp-dayton.org> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You thought the lab was hard...wait till you have to be a parent!
>>>> ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Congratulations!
>>>>
>>>> Rik
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Edwards, Andrew M [mailto:andrew.m.edwards@boeing.com
>>>> <mailto:andrew.m.edwards@boeing.com> ]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 1:13 PM
>>>> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com <mailto:ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>>>> Subject: It is possible!
>>>>
>>>> All I can say is...
>>>>
>>>> God answered my prayers. I passed in SJ yesterday.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, there is more to it than that, but I must give credit where
>>>> credit is due. A good combination of experience, effort, knowledge
>>>> and most importantly prayer go a long way towards having clarity and
>>>> success during the exam.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now, for those of you new to GS I would like to share my story. One
>>>> day I realized it was time to prove to myself I could pass the CCIE
>>>> R&S exam.
>>>> After passing the written on my second attempt I too started to study
>>>> for the lab. I quickly found myself without any colleagues to
>>>> discuss these crazy issues with at any level of depth required for
>>>> the CCIE lab.
>>>> So, I
>>>> got on GS and realized how deep things really would go.
>>>> Honestly, my first impression was that these GS people were crazy for
>>>> arguing about Tc shaping intervals and how many bits burst in excess;
>>>> absolute timers versus idle timers for lock n key, and all that other
>>>> nitty gritty nerd knob stuff. Initially I thought people on GS that
>>>> talked about these things in such detail really needed a life.
>>>>
>>>> Little did I know that I would soon be joining them...
>>>>
>>>> And so the story goes, I started to post on GS and discover exactly
>>>> what I didn't know; or at least what I thought I knew was wrong. And
>>>> slowly, over time, the facts got straight as did my technical
>>>> experience and exposure. I
>>>>
>>>> too started grinding over Tc intervals, burst patterns, NBAR protocol
>>>> matching, timer adjustments, etc. And then, one day I realized I was
>>>> one of those people who needed a life. 8)
>>>>
>>>> Strangely, over the past 2 years, this list has become my second
>>>> family full
>>>>
>>>> of personalities and people I really look forward to meeting. Its
>>>> what I imagine a fraternity would have been like had I joined one.
>>>> And, oddly enough, I feel like I just got through with a self
>>>> inflicted hazing that I'll never forget.
>>>>
>>>> So now, after having spend the better part of 2.5 years and 5 lab
>>>> attempts I have proven to myself the following:
>>>>
>>>> 1. The CCIE R&S exam is passable
>>>> 2. Knowledge is required, but sometimes its not enough during the
>>>> exam.
>>>> This is where determination comes in (e.g. try and try again).
>>>> 3. And probably most important: Do ONLY what you are asked to do
>>>> and make sure things work EXACTLY the way you are asked.
>>>>
>>>> And in closing, I want to thank the Scotts & Brians for pulling away
>>>> my knowledge blanket and really getting me to learn something. And
>>>> Tim (ccie2be = cciewhois). I remember last year Tim and I would futs
>>>> over
>>>> IPv6 and why most V6 tunnels don't run IGPs and other stuff as we
>>>> freaked out about this addition to the lab - oh those unfounded
>>>> fears!
>>>> And Chris Lewis for helping de-mystify QOS. Excellent stuff coming
>>>> from Chris on the QoS front people! Not necessarily new material,
>>>> but sometimes hearing it the 8th time a different way makes things
>>>> sink in...
>>>>
>>>> I would also like to thank the proctors Tom and Tuong in SJ. Thanks
>>>> for your guidance and patience for people like me who make this exam
>>>> much harder
>>>>
>>>> than it was probably meant to be. And, Tom, I do hope I see you
>>>> again but this time I'll guy you lunch - no voucher required. 8)
>>>>
>>>> And finally, the guys I really want to thank are Marvin, Brad, and
>>>> Bill Lejewski at www.ccbootcamp.com <http://www.ccbootcamp.com> .
>>>> Yes, Bill (shows how dated I am).
>>>> These guys have really watched me struggle. They knew I had
>>>> knowledge, but just failed to convert during the actual exam. They
>>>> were always there to help with anything I needed and they never gave
>>>> up on me.
>>>> Thanks guys. And now I'll take that beer Brad!
>>>>
>>>> So, I'm sure you will all agree, its time to get reacquainted with my
>>>> estranged friends, family, and ever patient wife. She's 6 months
>>>> pregnant and I've got a lot of painting and baby-proofing to do. 8)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again GS! I hope to see you guys soon!
>>>>
>>>> Andy Edwards
>>>> CCIE #15334
>>>>
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