RE: Cat OS or IOS for 6500 Series Switch ?

From: Church, Chuck (cchurch@netcogov.com)
Date: Thu Nov 10 2005 - 20:45:39 GMT-3


Hey all,

        I found this link while looking for something else. Pretty good
comparison between Native and Hybrid. It's a lot to read, but the best
one I've seen so far.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps708/products_white_pap
er09186a00800c8441.shtml
 
Chuck Church
Lead Design Engineer
CCIE #8776, MCNE, MCSE
Netco Government Services - Design & Implementation
1210 N. Parker Rd.
Greenville, SC 29609
Home office: 864-335-9473
Cell: 864-266-3978
cchurch@netcogov.com
PGP key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x4371A48D

 

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From: James Ventre [mailto:messageboard@ventrefamily.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:00 AM
To: Church, Chuck
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Cat OS or IOS for 6500 Series Switch ?

>like NSF/SSO, etc

That is now supported in Hybrid with 12.2(18)SXF and CatOS 8.5(1).

James

Church, Chuck wrote:

        I agree. Native is nice, with only 1 config file to manage,
it'll make
        life simpler. But there are reasons to keep it hybrid. I don't
think
        native supports VTP v3 yet, which is needed to use VTP with
VLANs
        1025-4096. There are other ones as well. But on the flip side,
you
        need native to support the OSM modules. At least you did.
Native tends
        to have more of the newer features, like NSF/SSO, etc. Read the
docs,
        there are many, many things to consider...
        
        
        Chuck Church
        Lead Design Engineer
        CCIE #8776, MCNE, MCSE
        Netco Government Services - Design & Implementation Team
        1210 N. Parker Rd.
        Greenville, SC 29609
        Home office: 864-335-9473
        Cell: 864-266-3978
        cchurch@netcogov.com
        PGP key:
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x4371A48D
        
        
        -----Original Message-----
        From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
Behalf Of
        Vishal Patel
        Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 5:07 PM
        To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
        Subject: RE: Cat OS or IOS for 6500 Series Switch ?
        
        I have converted couple of 6500 cat from hybrid to native.
        
        It is not very troublesome , yeah it took around an hour when I
did it
        first
        time.
        
        But then it was fairly easy second time.
        
>From my experience I can say, native image is better and the
main
        reason I
        like it was because the CLI is very very familiar in native
mode.
        
        The link below gives a good comparision between hybrid and
native
        
        
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/products/hw/switches/ps700/products_
        tech
        _note09186a008010e9d5.shtml
        
        I think cisco website , also had a option when we can put in
our CAT OS
        config and it gets converted to IOS.
        
        Thanks
        
        Vishal
        
        -----Original Message-----
        From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
Behalf Of
        Guyler, Rik
        Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2005 8:50 AM
        To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
        Subject: RE: Cat OS or IOS for 6500 Series Switch ?
        
        You guys must have read the old Cisco doc that took several
pages to
        hold
        all the steps for the "old way". This was the first doc I used
for my
        first
        conversion. However, a coworker who had the benefit of taking a
Global
        Knowledge class had the process condensed down to 4 or 5 steps
and the
        last
        one we did took all of fifteen minutes. ;-0
        
        I realize the talk about the lack of an MSFC and all and also he
doesn't
        have nearly enough RAM or flash so that conversation is moot I
think. I
        just wanted to mention that I bet I could upgrade 30 6500's in a
day.
        
        Rik
        
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Vincent Mashburn [mailto:vmashburn@fedex.com]
        Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 11:32 AM
        To: kevin gannon; Michael Brooks
        Cc: Dharmendra Shah; ccielab@groupstudy.com
        Subject: RE: Cat OS or IOS for 6500 Series Switch ?
        
        I agree. Converting will take hours.
        
        Vince Mashburn
        Engineer
        901-263-5072
        CCNP, CCDA, Network +
        -----Original Message-----
        From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
Behalf Of
        kevin gannon
        Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 10:29 AM
        To: Michael Brooks
        Cc: Dharmendra Shah; ccielab@groupstudy.com
        Subject: Re: Cat OS or IOS for 6500 Series Switch ?
        
        No MSF= no Native IOS. Also bear in mind that the coversion
process is
        fairly involved. From memory doing it remotely can be scary you
        certainly
        need out of band console.
        
        Regards
        Kevin
        
        On 11/9/05, Michael Brooks <michaeljbrooks@gmail.com>
<mailto:michaeljbrooks@gmail.com> wrote:
          

                Do all these 6500's have MSFC's ?
                 Mike
                
                 On 11/9/05, Dharmendra Shah <shah.dharmendra@gmail.com>
<mailto:shah.dharmendra@gmail.com> wrote:
                    

                        My Name is Dharmendra Shah and I am in a dilemma
that should I
                              

        upgrade to
          

                        Cat OS or IOS ? We have approximately 30 plus
6500 series Catalyst
                        Switches in our Head Offices and various remote
corporate offices
                        spread all
                              

        over
          

                        US.
                        Currently the Cat OS version installed in these
switches are 7.4(7)
                              

        or
          

                        7.6(7).
                        We are planning to upgrade the operating system
of the switch.
                        
                        I want to know if I should upgrade with the
latest version of the
                              

        Cat OS
          

                        or
                        upgrade with the latest IOS of 6500 series
switch.
                        I have heard that Cisco is encouraging people to
go with the IOS for
                              

        6500
          

                        series switch rather then Cat OS.
                        
                        Will the New IOS for 6500 series switch support
all my latest
                              

        hardware
          

                        like
                        SUP1A-2GE , line card with PoE, Communication
Module, etc.
                        
                        Is the IOS as stable as that of Cat OS and does
it support all the
                        functionality which are supported by the Cat OS
like QoS, IP
                              

        TELEHONY etc.
          

                        I would also like to know which version of IOS /
Cat OS I should
                              

        upgrade
          

                        to.
                        
                        NOTE: We have 16 MB Flash & 64 MB RAM in all our
Switches.
                        Dharmendra Shah
                        
                        
                              

        



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