From: Guyler, Rik (rguyler@shp-dayton.org)
Date: Thu Oct 13 2005 - 14:47:20 GMT-3
If his status shows as inactive, doesn't that mean he's still a CCIE? As I
understand it, inactive status means you missed the 2-year renewal period in
which you still have another year to recertify. At the end of the 1-year
grace period and you still haven't recertified then you are considered
"expired" and have to go through it all over again. If I'm right then it
would make sense that this book was sent to publish within the last year and
maybe at that time he was still active.
I love his books and I don't really care what he calls himself. To me it in
no way diminishes the program if Jeff Doyle's cert has expired or not.
Rik
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From: nrf [mailto:noglikirf@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 1:38 PM
To: cisco@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: RE : 2nd EDITION Routing TCP/IP Vol I Coming [7:103563]
""Priscilla Oppenheimer"" wrote in message
news:200510131732.j9DHW2lN008244@groupstudy.com...
> nrf wrote:
>
>> >
>> > Authors write for themselves. They aren't hired. Maybe you're
>> thinking of
>> > tech writers who are employees of a company? Cisco Press
>> authors certainly
>> > aren't hired by Cisco. That's wayyyy offbase. Pearson
>> Education pays the
>> > royalty checks.
>>
>> Ok, fine, but Cisco could object vociferously to people whether they
>> are Cisco employees or not, who are writing a Ciscopress book who are
>> 'fraudulently' claiming CCIE status. For example, if Joe Schmoe off
>> the street claimed to be a septuple-CCIE and was writing a Ciscopress
>> book, I suspect that Cisco might demand that Pearson pull that book
>> off the market.
>> In this case, it's rather interesting that Cisco has conveniently
>> chosen to do nothing.
>>
>> The point is, if Cisco really wanted to stop it, Cisco could stop it.
>> Look at what Cisco did to Keyur Shah of Hello Computers.
>
> I bet that it will get fixed in the next printing.
>
> So tell me this, does it say CCIE on the cover, on the inside, where
> exactly? I'm trying to figure out how the mistake happened. I'm
> assuming it's a mistake made by the youngsters who work at publishing
> houses, not the author fradulently claiming a cert he no longer has,
> with Cisco's blessing.
Here's a picture of the front cover. Looks pretty clear to me.
http://www.ciscopress.com/bookstore/LargeCover.asp?isbn=1587052024
I'll guess we'll just have to wait and see whether Cisco objects enough to
get it removed on the next printing. I know I'm not going to hold my
breath.
>
> Priscilla
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