From: Christopher M. Heffner (cheffner@certified-labs.com)
Date: Thu Oct 13 2005 - 23:44:13 GMT-3
The book will be available next week on October 19th.
Here is the link for the details.
http://www.ciscopress.com/title/1587052024
As for the other subject of teaching, yes you definitely get know the
subject matter a h*ll of lot better when you teach for a living.
I have been a Cisco CCSI since 1998 and every week my students always
ask challenging questions that cause me to have to think and research
new materials for what if questions.
Every week, I learn at least one new thing from a student based on his
or her work environment that I have not run into personally before.
I always have believed in the policy of when teaching any technical
materials that you have to always be one level (at least) more knowledge
then the actual course teaches.
In the Lotus notes world when I use to teach Lotus Notes, Lotus would
require that the instructor had sat the next level course too. So if I
taught Lotus Notes System Administration Level 1 course, I would also
have to know the Lotus Notes System Administration Level 2 course
materials.
Students are always going to want to learn more and know more then just
what is in the actual course so you have to be ready.
Besides, when you teach the same materials week after week you really
get to know the material by memory too.
What a GREAT career I have!
I love this stuff!
Christopher M. Heffner, CCIE 8211, CCSI 98760
Strategic Network Solutions, Inc.
VP of Internetworking Technologies
www.certified-labs.com
"Complete CCIE R&S and Security Online Rack Rentals"
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Curtis Phillips
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 8:33 PM
To: Guyler, Rik; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: RE : 2nd EDITION Routing TCP/IP Vol I Coming [7:103563]
I wouldn't exactly call the cover and the credentials claimed on it as
fluff as it probably influences a potential buyer's decision making
process. On the other hand, Doyle is so widely known and respected, who
actually cares whether he is still hopping through CCIE recert hoops?
Is the book actually available yet?
Doug, you hit it right on the head. I used to teach MS classes years
ago
and never did I learn so much about the content then when I was
teaching it.
You have to learn at a much higher level to do right by your students.
Rik
-----Original Message-----
From: dszarmach [mailto:dszarmach@comhs.org]
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 1:28 PM
To: cisco@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: RE : 2nd EDITION Routing TCP/IP Vol I Coming [7:103563]
Priscilla - How did you get started as a writer? Is it profitable?
Enjoyable? Or is the time and involvement not really worth the pay
off?
I'm sure you also extend your own knowledge when you write about a
topic.....I think I read a statistic that the best way to remember
something
is to teach it to someone else.
-
Doug
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 12:13 PM
To: cisco@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: RE : 2nd EDITION Routing TCP/IP Vol I Coming [7:103563]
nrf wrote:
>
> ""John Neiberger"" wrote in
> message
> news:200510121624.j9CGOAMF012967@groupstudy.com...
> >I wonder how he feels writing for Cisco Press
>considering that
> he's been
> > working at Juniper for years. :)
>
> Not only that, but I see that the book lists Doyle as a CCIE.
> I thought he
> had let his CCIE status expire years ago, ever since he joined the big
>'J'.
> I also thought that the rule from Cisco was that if you let your
>status expire, you can't go around calling yourself a CCIE anymore.
>
> But then again, it wouldn't be the first time that an organization
>concluded that it's allowed to break its own rules whenever it feels
>like it.
What organization are you referring to?
Cisco Press is owned by Pearson Education, a huge but little known
publishing conglomerate who also owns Addison Wesley, Prentice Hall,
New
Riders, Peachpit, Que, SAMS and a bunch of other imprints.
Cisco influences the Cisco Press department of Pearson Education, but
Pearson sets the rules. I'm sure they would be unhappy with one of
their
authors claiming a certification that they don't have.
It
could be a copy
and paste error, left over from the 1st edition, if it's really not
accurate. The publisher, not the author, does the book cover copy and
some
of the other fluff.
>
> Furthermore, there is some delicious irony in Cisco allowing a Juniper
>employee to claim CCIE status that (if the above is
>correct) he,
> technically speaking, does not have. There is also heavy irony in the
>notion that Cisco is hiring a Juniper employee to write Cisco training
>materials.
Authors write for themselves. They aren't hired. Maybe you're thinking
of
tech writers who are employees of a company? Cisco Press authors
certainly
aren't hired by Cisco. That's wayyyy offbase. Pearson Education pays
the
royalty checks.
Priscilla
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