From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Sat Jun 25 2005 - 08:43:16 GMT-3
Ok... Enough, EVERYONE! All in all, this discussion did not need to move
to this level.
Whether you use your CCIE number in public domain is irrelevant (kinda odd
if you don't, but whatever). This discussion was perfectly fine at the
level of "friendly jabs" back and forth. It did not need to get personal at
all.
Just because I have more certifications that he (or many others) does not
always mean I'm right. So it's good to question and don't accept everything
"just because". But don't make it personal!
Amazingly enough, we are a very small audience all in all. I'm always
amazed how many of you fine folks I have run into at different places,
different gigs, different levels over the years. It's typically wise not
get personal in this stuff because one moment of "e-mail rage" (which is
similar to road rage only with an enter key) may become what you're
remembered for.
Calm down everyone... Count to 10.5 (in binary) and let's get on with life!
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of John
Matus
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 2:58 AM
To: Ricky; Group Study
Subject: Re: isdn in san jose
wow, you are really one of those people who feels that he needs overly
express himself. "well, allow me to retort". you can feel free to agree
or disagree to anything that i say, but i don'te believe that i insulted you
at any point in time, so i'm not sure where you think you have the right to
judge me or my skill set or anything else about me. and btw, being ccie #
14xxxx makes no difference to me, it just means that your a 14xxx ass. put
that in your ccie pipe and smoke it, son. and when you're done w/ that, you
can go.....yourself. :)
Regards,
John D. Matus
MCSE, CCNP
Office: 818-782-2061
Cell: 818-430-8372
jmatus@pacbell.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ricky" <rickycool@gmail.com>
To: "John Matus" <jmatus@pacbell.net>; "Group Study"
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: isdn in san jose
> Hi John
> The fact is Scott is a respected CCIE, you can even find his info on the
> Cisco website. So if he says something you better understand it is for
> your
> own good.
> Ricky
> CCIE #14XXX
> I usually don't mention my CCIE number in the group because it is a public
> domain but just incase you wanted to know i have cleared my lab and the
> fact
> that you have got 100% on your ISDN doesn't really bother me since you
> haven't got your number yet.
>
>
> On 6/24/05, Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com> wrote:
>>
>> Well, if it's just semantics one does have to wonder why it's a big deal
>> to
>> ask. ;)
>>
>> Learn SPIDs just in case! It can never hurt to know too much.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: John Matus [mailto:jmatus@pacbell.net]
>> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 12:54 AM
>> To: swm@emanon.com; 'robbie'; 'Group Study'
>> Subject: Re: isdn in san jose
>>
>> hmm....i don't think it is "quite" as similar as asking about frame encap
>> type. that is a "programming/programmed feature". mentioning what kind of
>> isdn line is used does not tell how to configure the device, merely what
>> the
>> isdn switch type is.....much the same way that telling someone that they
>> use
>> a 3xxx router does not give anything away as far as "how to use" or
>> program
>> it. it's semantic-soup, i tell ya.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> John D. Matus
>> MCSE, CCNP
>> Office: 818-782-2061
>> Cell: 818-430-8372
>> jmatus@pacbell.net
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Scott Morris" <swm@emanon.com>
>> To: "'John Matus'" <jmatus@pacbell.net>; "'robbie'"
>> <robbie@packetized.org
>> >;
>> "'Group Study'" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 9:24 PM
>> Subject: RE: isdn in san jose
>>
>>
>> > No, it's more along the lines that specific details that lead to
>> > things studied or not are part of it. Blue cables have nothing to do
>> > with how ethernet may be tested. The 3550's are listed on Cisco's
>> blueprint.
>> >
>> > You aren't talking about hardware. The BRI line is the same, and you
>> > know you have those because they're on the blueprint. Until Cisco
>> > decides to list an ISDN switch-type on their blueprint, assume that
>> > any of the basic-??? Types are fair game.
>> >
>> > It's more like asking is the frame-relay cloud using Cisco or IETF
>> > encapsulation.
>> >
>> > Scott
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>> > Of John Matus
>> > Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 12:09 AM
>> > To: swm@emanon.com; 'robbie'; 'Group Study'
>> > Subject: Re: isdn in san jose
>> >
>> > hmm.......i wouldn't have thought that talking about the isdn
>> > simulator would be a violation of the NDA. is it alsoa violation to
>> > say that they use 3550 switches and 3xxx series routers??<not that i
>> > can even remember, i did
>> > not sit next to a rack> or that they use blue cat5 cables even :) i
>> > think
>> > talking about the "exam" and talking about "hardware" are 2 differnt
>> > things.
>> >
>> > the test is what is given to you in the exam book. what you do the
>> > test on is anciliary. it's certianly not a violation to say that
>> > there is a spare copy of the doc cd in the rom drive....!!!
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > John D. Matus
>> > MCSE, CCNP
>> > Office: 818-782-2061
>> > Cell: 818-430-8372
>> > jmatus@pacbell.net
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Scott Morris" <swm@emanon.com>
>> > To: "'John Matus'" <jmatus@pacbell.net>; "'robbie'"
>> > <robbie@packetized.org>;
>> > "'Group Study'" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 8:44 PM
>> > Subject: RE: isdn in san jose
>> >
>> >
>> >> Well, you realize that it's all a function of the ISDN switch
>> >> anyway...
>> >> And
>> >> there's also that whole NDA thing too....
>> >>
>> >> So, know how to do SPIDs (which really aren't difficult) and if you
>> >> have them, cool, if you don't, cool too!
>> >>
>> >> As soon as someone says that there are no SPIDs on the exam, it'll
>> >> just take people a few minutes in the lab to go and reprogram the
>> >> ISDN simulators and BAM, everyone gets SPIDs! ;)
>> >>
>> >> Scott
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>> >> Of John Matus
>> >> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:28 PM
>> >> To: robbie; Group Study
>> >> Subject: Re: isdn in san jose
>> >>
>> >> i love getting straight answers :-P
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> John D. Matus
>> >> MCSE, CCNP
>> >> Office: 818-782-2061
>> >> Cell: 818-430-8372
>> >> jmatus@pacbell.net
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "robbie" <robbie@packetized.org>
>> >> To: "Group Study" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> >> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 8:07 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: isdn in san jose
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> What's the practical difference between basic-ni and basic-net3,
>> >>> other than default SPID formats (20255512120101 vs 0555121201, etc)?
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers,
>> >>> Robbie
>> >>>
>> >>> John Matus wrote:
>> >>>> do they use basic-net3 in san jose?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Regards,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> John D. Matus
>> >>>> MCSE, CCNP
>> >>>> Office: 818-782-2061
>> >>>> Cell: 818-430-8372
>> >>>> jmatus@pacbell.net
>> >>>>
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