RE: CCIE Voice written vs CCVP [bcc][faked-from]

From: amilabs (amilabs@optonline.net)
Date: Fri Mar 04 2005 - 21:33:18 GMT-3


Yes I may go this route. Look at it this way, at least after the ccvp you
have something to show for your studies and you learned some new skills plus
provided a foundation towards voice ccie. But if you go for voice ccie first
you may not get it after a couple of attempts and in all that time you have
nothing to show for your progress.

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From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
David Duncon
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 5:51 PM
To: marvin@ccbootcamp.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Cc: jmatrisciano@kenttech.com
Subject: RE: CCIE Voice written vs CCVP [bcc][faked-from]

Thanks Marvin/ James for your insight :-)

Though my top priority now is to get my R & S number , I needed to broaden
my skill set (kind of employer requirement) particularly when we are
embarking on a large scale VOIP implementation on our WAN. And as Marvin
pointed out , may be CCVP courses , just like CCNP will individually tackle
each module more thoroughly than CCIE Voice Written. Hence may be worth
while to go for them.

Perhaps next year with R & S # and CCVP under belt , I can move forward with
my CCIE Voice track prep.

And more importantly this CCVP studies will help me survive in the current
job I guess even though they cause significant distraction to my ongoing R &
S lab studies.

Cheers

- David.

>From: marvin greenlee <marvin@ccbootcamp.com>
>To: 'David Duncon' <david_ccie@hotmail.com>, ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: RE: CCIE Voice written vs CCVP [bcc][faked-from]
>Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 09:38:11 -0800
>
>
>What are your reasons for completing the Voice written? If you are
>planning on pursuing the Voice CCIE, the information covered in the
>CCVP tests will go a long way towards helping you prepare. Similarly,
>with R&S, the CCNP tests give someone a better understanding of the
>core topics in the R&S lab.
>My opinion of the CCIE written tests, is that because they cover such a
>broad topic range, they don't go as deep into the details, whereas the
>individual tests do. If you are doing an IP Tel implementation, I
>would say that the CVoice and QoS tests may be more relevant to what
>you are doing.
>
>
>Marvin Greenlee, CCIE#12237, CCSI# 30483 Network Learning Inc
>marvin@ccbootcamp.com www.ccbootcamp.com (Cisco Training)
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>David Duncon
>Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 4:08 AM
>To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: CCIE Voice written vs CCVP [bcc][faked-from]
>Importance: Low
>
>Hi Group,
>
>
>In parallel to my ongoing R & S lab exam prep, I am planning to start
>working on Voice written track as well since it become really relevant
>to my work front with upcoming IP Tel roll out on our WAN. I was
>discussing this matter with our SE and he mentioned about doing CCVP
>instead to get me going on the ground. But when I looked at the CCVP
>details , I realized that
>
>I got to do 5 exams , Cvoice , IP Telephony , T/shooting , Qos and
>Gatekeeper/Gateway. And that is a long journey both in terms of time
>and money required.
>
>So I am just thinking with some preliminary knowledge under the belt on
>CM, Gateway , Qos and Transcoder functionality , I am thinking I should
>go for CCIE Voice written exam directly instead. Am I on right kind of
thinking ?
>Or these 2 tracks ( Voice written and CCVP) have separate strengths who
>may or may not compliment each other.
>
>Secondly can any please suggest best CCIE Voice written exam
>certification guide ?Thirdly is there any vendor out there who is
>offering these CCVP courses online , just like they do with CCIE track
courses ?
>
>Thanks heaps :-)
>
>- Cheers
>
>David.
>
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