From: Sean C (Upp_and_Upp@hotmail.com)
Date: Fri Feb 18 2005 - 12:10:42 GMT-3
I take no offense at your initial questions nor did I write that I did. You
asked a question, innocently.
I didn't state that you "cheat", only hope you now appreciate your question
was taken as a way at skipping the same path most of the other on this forum
are trying to take.
I never questioned your looking thru the archives for the answer ahead of
time. I readily admit I have posted a question or two which I'm sure could
have been answered if I had scoured the archives a little more.
Your qualification of time or written score need not be considered when
evaluating if you are low. Your struggle sounds genuine, your question was
innocent.
From my experience with both DoIT and Internetexpert material, I hope you do
not place these in the same category as TestKing.
Claiming that people are on a high-horse that value this certification or
the time/resources spent, that's where you got me. To you, I'm low because
I claimed your low, to me you're low for claiming we're on a high-horse. So
be it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bobby" <robertgacker@yahoo.com>
To: "'Sean C'" <Upp_and_Upp@hotmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 10:30 PM
Subject: RE: TestKing CCIE Labs
> Sean:
>
> I had no clue for the record they were cheats, I had heard they were good
> study tools from someone I worked with along with Internetexperts and DoIT
> I
> think. Hell, I was just asking and it should have been obvious that I
> didn't have knowledge of the above. If my intent was to "cheat" I
> seriously
> doubt I would be posting it on a huge forum, dont' you think? I passed my
> written with a 90% after 5 months of studying and nearly 5 years of
> working
> with cisco products, so anyone claiming that "I am low" is being just that
> themselves. BTW, I haven't been reading the posts on the forum that
> long,
> so if there has been previous discussion, I have yet to see it.
>
> My .02
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Sean
> C
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 10:45 AM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: TestKing CCIE Labs
>
> Vijay - well said!
>
> And I agree - This is one of the best study groups on the web where free
> exchange of CCIE Lab help is valued. Most of the people that are part of
> this study group have sacrificed a great deal of time and money for the
> same
> goal. For someone to then send an email to the above mentioned group
> asking
> how to circumvent the same road that all these travelers are on - I don't
> think it's a question of us being on a 'high-horse' as much as the person
> who asked the question just being low.
>
> Why don't they just ask "Hi group, I know most of you are spending a
> considerable amount of time, effort and money on passing the lab, but how
> can I circumvent the same path to get that job before you?"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vijay Ramcharan" <vramcharan@thedeal.com>
> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:01 AM
> Subject: RE: TestKing CCIE Labs
>
>
>> Not a regular poster but couldn't resist.
>> Before you tell people to get off their 'high-horse' you should
>> understand why everyone gets on their 'high-horse' when it comes to
>> Testking or others like them. Testking is a rip-off of the real exams,
>> whether it's the lab or the written. It's an insult to those who've
>> worked long and hard to earn their number when someone get their hands
>> on TK and uses it to pass the lab and gain a number when they haven't
>> really earned it. It's cheating and most of us have a problem with
>> cheaters, myself included. Whoever you heard from about it being a "good
>> study tool" is absolutely wrong. It's good for cheating, nothing else.
>> Do your due-diligence in searching the archives before doing a post,
>> you'll see that Testking in this forum, and other CCIE forums has a bad
>> rep.
>>
>> Vijay Ramcharan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> Bobby
>> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 10:43 AM
>> To: loc.pham@comcast.net; 'Keane, James'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: RE: TestKing CCIE Labs
>>
>> Folks:
>>
>> I have not used it and just heard it was a good study tool. I think
>> most of
>> you need to get off of your high horse of accusations. I was just
>> asking a
>> question and am sorry that I did. Geez.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: loc.pham@comcast.net [mailto:loc.pham@comcast.net]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 9:29 AM
>> To: Keane, James; Bobby; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: RE: TestKing CCIE Labs
>>
>> Well said, James....
>>
>> Just like JeffD. wrote : ... do you wanna fry with that ? ( tcpip v1
>> )
>> That is the mentality that I am aiming for ...
>> lP.
>>
>>
>>> You probably get de-certified for using this illegal material.
>>> It is in clear breach of the NDA, TestKing have destroyed most other
>>> certifications the idiots who purchase the material are also to blame.
>>> It completely undermines and devalues the exam we all are studing for.
>>>
>>> If you used this for your CCIE Written you probably dont know your
>>> material (and could get decertified of ALL cisco qualifications)
>>>
>>> I for one believe in becoming a CCIE not for the purpose of just
>> 'getting
>> it'
>>> but to be able to walk into any networking environment knowing your
>>> stuff and say
>>>
>>> 'stand back gentlemen, let the professionals take over!'
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Bobby [mailto:robertgacker@yahoo.com]
>>> Sent: 16 February 2005 20:17
>>> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: TestKing CCIE Labs
>>>
>>>
>>> Are these any good for the labs? I have heard they were good for the
>>> written. Can anyone please advise?
>>>
>>> Also, has anyone taken the new CCIE R&S test with IPv6 in it? Just
>>> wondering how it compared to last years tests.
>>>
>>> Bobby
>>>
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