From: davo (davidscottmartin@gmail.com)
Date: Sat Feb 19 2005 - 14:43:07 GMT-3
Its sat night and put the BGP case studies down for a moments rest
from my reading marathon and what should I find ,.this enormously
entertaining GS post. thanks guys,,back to the marathon..
davo
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 10:10:42 -0500, Sean C <Upp_and_Upp@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I take no offense at your initial questions nor did I write that I did. You
> asked a question, innocently.
> I didn't state that you "cheat", only hope you now appreciate your question
> was taken as a way at skipping the same path most of the other on this forum
> are trying to take.
> I never questioned your looking thru the archives for the answer ahead of
> time. I readily admit I have posted a question or two which I'm sure could
> have been answered if I had scoured the archives a little more.
> Your qualification of time or written score need not be considered when
> evaluating if you are low. Your struggle sounds genuine, your question was
> innocent.
> From my experience with both DoIT and Internetexpert material, I hope you do
> not place these in the same category as TestKing.
>
> Claiming that people are on a high-horse that value this certification or
> the time/resources spent, that's where you got me. To you, I'm low because
> I claimed your low, to me you're low for claiming we're on a high-horse. So
> be it.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bobby" <robertgacker@yahoo.com>
> To: "'Sean C'" <Upp_and_Upp@hotmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 10:30 PM
> Subject: RE: TestKing CCIE Labs
>
> > Sean:
> >
> > I had no clue for the record they were cheats, I had heard they were good
> > study tools from someone I worked with along with Internetexperts and DoIT
> > I
> > think. Hell, I was just asking and it should have been obvious that I
> > didn't have knowledge of the above. If my intent was to "cheat" I
> > seriously
> > doubt I would be posting it on a huge forum, dont' you think? I passed my
> > written with a 90% after 5 months of studying and nearly 5 years of
> > working
> > with cisco products, so anyone claiming that "I am low" is being just that
> > themselves. BTW, I haven't been reading the posts on the forum that
> > long,
> > so if there has been previous discussion, I have yet to see it.
> >
> > My .02
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Sean
> > C
> > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 10:45 AM
> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: TestKing CCIE Labs
> >
> > Vijay - well said!
> >
> > And I agree - This is one of the best study groups on the web where free
> > exchange of CCIE Lab help is valued. Most of the people that are part of
> > this study group have sacrificed a great deal of time and money for the
> > same
> > goal. For someone to then send an email to the above mentioned group
> > asking
> > how to circumvent the same road that all these travelers are on - I don't
> > think it's a question of us being on a 'high-horse' as much as the person
> > who asked the question just being low.
> >
> > Why don't they just ask "Hi group, I know most of you are spending a
> > considerable amount of time, effort and money on passing the lab, but how
> > can I circumvent the same path to get that job before you?"
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Vijay Ramcharan" <vramcharan@thedeal.com>
> > To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:01 AM
> > Subject: RE: TestKing CCIE Labs
> >
> >
> >> Not a regular poster but couldn't resist.
> >> Before you tell people to get off their 'high-horse' you should
> >> understand why everyone gets on their 'high-horse' when it comes to
> >> Testking or others like them. Testking is a rip-off of the real exams,
> >> whether it's the lab or the written. It's an insult to those who've
> >> worked long and hard to earn their number when someone get their hands
> >> on TK and uses it to pass the lab and gain a number when they haven't
> >> really earned it. It's cheating and most of us have a problem with
> >> cheaters, myself included. Whoever you heard from about it being a "good
> >> study tool" is absolutely wrong. It's good for cheating, nothing else.
> >> Do your due-diligence in searching the archives before doing a post,
> >> you'll see that Testking in this forum, and other CCIE forums has a bad
> >> rep.
> >>
> >> Vijay Ramcharan
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Bobby
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 10:43 AM
> >> To: loc.pham@comcast.net; 'Keane, James'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >> Subject: RE: TestKing CCIE Labs
> >>
> >> Folks:
> >>
> >> I have not used it and just heard it was a good study tool. I think
> >> most of
> >> you need to get off of your high horse of accusations. I was just
> >> asking a
> >> question and am sorry that I did. Geez.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: loc.pham@comcast.net [mailto:loc.pham@comcast.net]
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 9:29 AM
> >> To: Keane, James; Bobby; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >> Subject: RE: TestKing CCIE Labs
> >>
> >> Well said, James....
> >>
> >> Just like JeffD. wrote : ... do you wanna fry with that ? ( tcpip v1
> >> )
> >> That is the mentality that I am aiming for ...
> >> lP.
> >>
> >>
> >>> You probably get de-certified for using this illegal material.
> >>> It is in clear breach of the NDA, TestKing have destroyed most other
> >>> certifications the idiots who purchase the material are also to blame.
> >>> It completely undermines and devalues the exam we all are studing for.
> >>>
> >>> If you used this for your CCIE Written you probably dont know your
> >>> material (and could get decertified of ALL cisco qualifications)
> >>>
> >>> I for one believe in becoming a CCIE not for the purpose of just
> >> 'getting
> >> it'
> >>> but to be able to walk into any networking environment knowing your
> >>> stuff and say
> >>>
> >>> 'stand back gentlemen, let the professionals take over!'
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Bobby [mailto:robertgacker@yahoo.com]
> >>> Sent: 16 February 2005 20:17
> >>> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >>> Subject: TestKing CCIE Labs
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Are these any good for the labs? I have heard they were good for the
> >>> written. Can anyone please advise?
> >>>
> >>> Also, has anyone taken the new CCIE R&S test with IPv6 in it? Just
> >>> wondering how it compared to last years tests.
> >>>
> >>> Bobby
> >>>
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