From: loc.pham@comcast.net
Date: Thu Feb 17 2005 - 15:54:53 GMT-3
Yes, so he did get his number by practicing x^y labs that meet HIS expectation.
I would love to see how he perform at work ! better yet, how he find his way out ;- ]
lP
> Never read the NDA mate, you obviously have so what does it say about the
> recepient of a braindump ? how does he know its a braindump in the first place
> if he has never seen the exam before ?
>
> Point being there is a limit to what can be policed and there is no morality
> blueprint that can be universally applied. My guy actually sees himself as
> having gotten lucky ..not as a cheat ! And you do need luck with the CCIE exam
> as well !
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robin Johnson" <rob@dxi.net>
> To: "'libone mhlanga'" <libone@lycos.com>, ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: TestKing CCIE Labs
> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:53:26 -0000
>
> >
> > If thats true then you yourself are breaking the NDA by not reporting him,
> > as where the others for providing him the dumps in the first place.
> >
> > "There are no short cuts to any place worth going"
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: libone mhlanga [mailto:libone@lycos.com]
> > Sent: 17 February 2005 16:46
> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: TestKing CCIE Labs
> >
> >
> > Couldn't resist either ...so into the fray with both feet !!
> > I find this discussion a bit rich as I know quite a few CCIE's who got their
> > number due to practicing on
> > braindump labs from other candidates. In fact I know one guy who played a
> > statistical game with this as he had quite
> > a few braindump labs that he used to call the ".xxx lab" ".yyy lab" ( after
> > the 2nd Octet of the ip add range ) so by playing a game of probabilities he
> > was pretty sure he would get the ".xxx lab" so he practiced on it one day
> > before the lab exam and lo-and-behold he got that exact paper ...and his
> > number of course. How do I know this ? He rang me straight after the exam !
> > How would any of you know thats how he got his number ? he had also studied
> > for as long as any of us and had quite a bit of practical experience as well
> > ...so how the hell would you tell ? Can a CCIE answer every question there
> > is ?
> > What about the guy with 20 years experience and fails the CCIE ...is he less
> > of an Engineer than the guy with a number ?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gajewski Mariusz" <Mariusz.Gajewski@telekomunikacja.pl>
> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: TestKing CCIE Labs
> > Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:02:44 +0100
> >
> > >
> > > such subjects will ALWAYS produce such discussions on GS :)
> > > Bobby, don't feel sorry for asking such questions , feel sorry for using
> > > this crap :)
> > >
> > > Just my 2c
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Bobby
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 4:43 PM
> > > To: loc.pham@comcast.net; 'Keane, James'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: RE: TestKing CCIE Labs
> > >
> > >
> > > Folks:
> > >
> > > I have not used it and just heard it was a good study tool. I think most
> > of
> > > you need to get off of your high horse of accusations. I was just asking
> > a
> > > question and am sorry that I did. Geez.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: loc.pham@comcast.net [mailto:loc.pham@comcast.net]
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 9:29 AM
> > > To: Keane, James; Bobby; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: RE: TestKing CCIE Labs
> > >
> > > Well said, James....
> > >
> > > Just like JeffD. wrote : ... do you wanna fry with that ? ( tcpip v1 )
> > > That is the mentality that I am aiming for ...
> > > lP.
> > >
> > >
> > > > You probably get de-certified for using this illegal material.
> > > > It is in clear breach of the NDA, TestKing have destroyed most
> > > > other certifications the idiots who purchase the material are >
> > > also to blame.
> > > > It completely undermines and devalues the exam we all are studing for.
> > > >
> > > > If you used this for your CCIE Written you probably dont know your
> > > > material (and could get decertified of ALL cisco qualifications)
> > > >
> > > > I for one believe in becoming a CCIE not for the purpose of just
> > 'getting
> > > it'
> > > > but to be able to walk into any networking environment knowing your
> > > > stuff and say
> > > >
> > > > 'stand back gentlemen, let the professionals take over!'
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Bobby [mailto:robertgacker@yahoo.com]
> > > > Sent: 16 February 2005 20:17
> > > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > Subject: TestKing CCIE Labs
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Are these any good for the labs? I have heard they were good for the
> > > > written. Can anyone please advise?
> > > >
> > > > Also, has anyone taken the new CCIE R&S test with IPv6 in it? Just
> > > > wondering how it compared to last years tests.
> > > >
> > > > Bobby
> > > >
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