From: libone mhlanga (libone@lycos.com)
Date: Thu Feb 17 2005 - 14:46:19 GMT-3
Never read the NDA mate, you obviously have so what does it say about the recepient of a braindump ? how does he know its a braindump in the first place if he has never seen the exam before ?
Point being there is a limit to what can be policed and there is no morality blueprint that can be universally applied. My guy actually sees himself as having gotten lucky ..not as a cheat ! And you do need luck with the CCIE exam as well !
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robin Johnson" <rob@dxi.net>
To: "'libone mhlanga'" <libone@lycos.com>, ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: TestKing CCIE Labs
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:53:26 -0000
>
> If thats true then you yourself are breaking the NDA by not reporting him,
> as where the others for providing him the dumps in the first place.
>
> "There are no short cuts to any place worth going"
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: libone mhlanga [mailto:libone@lycos.com]
> Sent: 17 February 2005 16:46
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: TestKing CCIE Labs
>
>
> Couldn't resist either ...so into the fray with both feet !!
> I find this discussion a bit rich as I know quite a few CCIE's who got their
> number due to practicing on
> braindump labs from other candidates. In fact I know one guy who played a
> statistical game with this as he had quite
> a few braindump labs that he used to call the ".xxx lab" ".yyy lab" ( after
> the 2nd Octet of the ip add range ) so by playing a game of probabilities he
> was pretty sure he would get the ".xxx lab" so he practiced on it one day
> before the lab exam and lo-and-behold he got that exact paper ...and his
> number of course. How do I know this ? He rang me straight after the exam !
> How would any of you know thats how he got his number ? he had also studied
> for as long as any of us and had quite a bit of practical experience as well
> ...so how the hell would you tell ? Can a CCIE answer every question there
> is ?
> What about the guy with 20 years experience and fails the CCIE ...is he less
> of an Engineer than the guy with a number ?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gajewski Mariusz" <Mariusz.Gajewski@telekomunikacja.pl>
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: TestKing CCIE Labs
> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:02:44 +0100
>
> >
> > such subjects will ALWAYS produce such discussions on GS :)
> > Bobby, don't feel sorry for asking such questions , feel sorry for using
> > this crap :)
> >
> > Just my 2c
> > Cheers,
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Bobby
> > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 4:43 PM
> > To: loc.pham@comcast.net; 'Keane, James'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: TestKing CCIE Labs
> >
> >
> > Folks:
> >
> > I have not used it and just heard it was a good study tool. I think most
> of
> > you need to get off of your high horse of accusations. I was just asking
> a
> > question and am sorry that I did. Geez.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: loc.pham@comcast.net [mailto:loc.pham@comcast.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 9:29 AM
> > To: Keane, James; Bobby; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: TestKing CCIE Labs
> >
> > Well said, James....
> >
> > Just like JeffD. wrote : ... do you wanna fry with that ? ( tcpip v1 )
> > That is the mentality that I am aiming for ...
> > lP.
> >
> >
> > > You probably get de-certified for using this illegal material.
> > > It is in clear breach of the NDA, TestKing have destroyed most
> > > other certifications the idiots who purchase the material are >
> > also to blame.
> > > It completely undermines and devalues the exam we all are studing for.
> > >
> > > If you used this for your CCIE Written you probably dont know your
> > > material (and could get decertified of ALL cisco qualifications)
> > >
> > > I for one believe in becoming a CCIE not for the purpose of just
> 'getting
> > it'
> > > but to be able to walk into any networking environment knowing your
> > > stuff and say
> > >
> > > 'stand back gentlemen, let the professionals take over!'
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bobby [mailto:robertgacker@yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: 16 February 2005 20:17
> > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: TestKing CCIE Labs
> > >
> > >
> > > Are these any good for the labs? I have heard they were good for the
> > > written. Can anyone please advise?
> > >
> > > Also, has anyone taken the new CCIE R&S test with IPv6 in it? Just
> > > wondering how it compared to last years tests.
> > >
> > > Bobby
> > >
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