From: Richard Danu (rdanu@apex3.com)
Date: Thu Dec 30 2004 - 01:37:44 GMT-3
Let's do the math:
I can make about 2K/mo in Vietnam, + chicks, +fine cuisine, + emperor life
style
I can make about 10K/mo in the US, - the chicks, some fine cuisine and
definitely no emperor lifestyle.
After working in Vietnam for about 2 year, I come back home just to realize
I have only saved up 6 month's worth of mortgage payments...
Then I have to go back to Vietnam and back my job for 2K/mo, continue with
+chicks, +fine cuisine, +emperor life style. Then I have to get another job
making hamburgers, because this new chick I am dating is really making me
feel like a super-emperor...
The sad part is that my chances of getting sliced up into pieces by some
"thug" is much higher since I am a foreigner and I live like an emperor,
making me a prime target for some "petty cash" I'm carrying around...
By the way, who do I contact at "Cisco System" to ask them directly about
cursing? Does "Cisco System" have the answer?
Sorry about "clocking" your email. Did you hear that if you overclock you
email you can receive messages faster?
Cheers!
Richard -- sorry, couldn't resist!
;)
_____
From: dusth@comcast.net [mailto:dusth@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 10:19 AM
To: Scott Morris; 'Richard Dumoulin'; groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com; 'Richard
Danu'; 'Hai Minh'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: RE : OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
Hello all,
Not sure if all you guys have ever been in Vietnam, but USD $2,000.00/mon
incomce in Hanoi or SaiGon (Ho Chi Minh City) AT LEAST "I say at least"
equipvalents to USD $20,000.00 - $30,000.00/mon income in San Jose, CA. "GO
DO YOUR OWN MATH "
Cost of living in SaiGon is around USD $5.00/day for a high quality of life
plus USD $ 2.00/day for a efficiency room rental in middle class neighbor.
Beside works, there are alot of fun and exciting things to do, such as night
life is just like BangKok, HongKong, Tokyo, etc... You can have alot alot
alot of young and pretty chicks every day if you are a bachalor or want to
be once life. They will treat you like an Emperor as long as you are a
foreigner, or you can have money to spend.
For those whom cursing about CCIE is degrading, please contact Cisco System
and ask them directly; only Cisco System can answer your answer. If you are
interested in the job go do your own research; otherwise, don't clock up my
email.
A V.C. from V.N.
-------------- Original message --------------
> We did this to become rich? Damn, I have it all wrong then!
>
> Uncle Sam likes me, but other than that...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Richard Dumoulin
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 10:15 AM
> To: groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com; swm@emanon.com; 'Richard Danu'; 'Hai
Minh';
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE : RE : OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
>
> After after, CCIE is not the way to become rich then :-(
>
> -- Richard
> CCIE #13891
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Tony Schaffran [mailto:groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com]
> Envoyi : Tuesday, December 28, 2004 4:12 PM @ : swm@emanon.com; Richard
> Dumoulin; 'Richard Danu'; 'Hai Minh'; ccielab@groupstudy.com Objet : RE:
RE
> : OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
>
> I hear you there.
>
> After taxes and expenses I actually only take home about $50.00 a month.
:)
>
> And the wife gets half of that.
>
> Tony Schaffran
> Network Analyst
> CCIE #11071
> CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
> NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
>
> www.cconlinelabs.com
> Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Morris [mailto:swm@emanon.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 7:09 AM
> To: 'Richard Dumoulin'; groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com; 'Richard Danu'; 'Hai
> Minh'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: RE : OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
>
> Also, consider some of the side benefits....
>
> He mentioned "net" 1-2K USD each month. With very little cost for living
> there compared to the US, that makes it mostly take-home pay. Also, per
IRS
> rules, your first $80K earned abroad is tax free (may have increased since
> last I looked), so that's another extra bit of money in the end.
>
> When you make $120K/year (10K/month), what kind of take home do you really
> have out of that? And when you look at your monthly living expenses, what
> kind of money do you really end up with?
>
> It may seem like a large difference, but it likely isn't as big of a shift
> as we are all thinking.
>
> Just my opinion....
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Richard Dumoulin
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 10:02 AM
> To: groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com; 'Richard Danu'; 'Hai Minh';
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE : RE : OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
>
> Lol, Money money money ...
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Tony Schaffran [mailto:groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com]
> Envoyi : Tuesday, December 28, 2004 3:59 PM @ : Richard Dumoulin; 'Richard
> Danu'; 'Hai Minh'; ccielab@groupstudy.com Objet : RE: RE : OT: Re: CCIE
hire
> in Vietnam
>
> I am not quite up to par when it comes to my history facts.
>
> Too busy trying to make $10,000.00 this month. :)
>
> Tony Schaffran
> Network Analyst
> CCIE #11071
> CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
> NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
>
> www.cconlinelabs.com
> Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Richard Dumoulin
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 6:53 AM
> To: Tony Schaffran; 'Richard Danu'; 'Hai Minh'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE : OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
>
> Maybe you can answer your own question. Without offending, there was a
time
> when the US was very interested in Vietnam. Why was that?
>
> -- Richard
>
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Tony Schaffran [mailto:groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com]
> Envoyi : Tuesday, December 28, 2004 3:25 PM @ : 'Richard Danu'; 'Hai
Minh';
> ccielab@groupstudy.com Objet : RE: OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
>
> You say the cost of living in Vietnam is low but why in the world would,
> let's say, someone from the US making $10,000.00 a month want to move half
> way around the world to make $2,000.00 a month?
>
> What is the incentive? Throw us a bone here.
>
> Tony Schaffran
> Network Analyst
> CCIE #11071
> CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
> NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
>
> www.cconlinelabs.com
> Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Richard Danu
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 6:00 AM
> To: 'Hai Minh'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
>
> How about CCIE making hamburgers in Vietnam?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Hai
> Minh
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 4:54 AM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
>
> What do you mean "degraded" ?
> Do you want to say about the salary ?
> How much does a hamburger cost in US ?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yasser Aly"
> To: "Nguyen Hoang Long" ;
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 4:05 PM
> Subject: Re: OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
>
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Is the CCIE value degraded that much ??
> >
> > Accepting such rates means that CCIE value is degrading !!
> >
> > Just my openion.
> >
> >
> > Nguyen Hoang Long wrote:
> > hi group,
> > Sorry for unclear information, this vacancy is for valid CCIE ( not
> > CCIE
> > written)
> >
> > Thanks
> > Long
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nguyen Hoang Long"
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 5:37 PM
> > Subject: CCIE hide in Vietnam
> >
> >
> > > Hi group,
> > >
> > > There's a vacancy for CCIE in Vietnam ( either Hanoi capical or Ho
> > > chi minh
> > > city) in one of the key Cisco's SI.
> > > The position is also very flexible, can be either post-sales or
> > > consultant.
> > > Salary : negotiate, around 1-2 K US (NET) plus incentive / month (
> > > note that daily expense, house rental in Vietnam is very cheap)
> > >
> > > Vietnam is in the infrastructure development phase, the number of
> > > in-country CCIE is only 10, that means CCIE has good chance to
> > > involve in
> interesting
> > > projects.
> > >
> > > Anyone interested, send me an off-line e-mail.
> > >
> > > Nguyen Hoang Long, #11898
> > > ng-hlong@hn.vnn.vn
> > >
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