From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Tue Dec 28 2004 - 12:31:26 GMT-3
We did this to become rich? Damn, I have it all wrong then!
Uncle Sam likes me, but other than that...
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Richard Dumoulin
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 10:15 AM
To: groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com; swm@emanon.com; 'Richard Danu'; 'Hai Minh';
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE : RE : OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
After after, CCIE is not the way to become rich then :-(
-- Richard
CCIE #13891
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Tony Schaffran [mailto:groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com]
Envoyi : Tuesday, December 28, 2004 4:12 PM @ : swm@emanon.com; Richard
Dumoulin; 'Richard Danu'; 'Hai Minh'; ccielab@groupstudy.com Objet : RE: RE
: OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
I hear you there.
After taxes and expenses I actually only take home about $50.00 a month. :)
And the wife gets half of that.
Tony Schaffran
Network Analyst
CCIE #11071
CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
www.cconlinelabs.com
Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Morris [mailto:swm@emanon.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 7:09 AM
To: 'Richard Dumoulin'; groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com; 'Richard Danu'; 'Hai
Minh'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: RE : OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
Also, consider some of the side benefits....
He mentioned "net" 1-2K USD each month. With very little cost for living
there compared to the US, that makes it mostly take-home pay. Also, per IRS
rules, your first $80K earned abroad is tax free (may have increased since
last I looked), so that's another extra bit of money in the end.
When you make $120K/year (10K/month), what kind of take home do you really
have out of that? And when you look at your monthly living expenses, what
kind of money do you really end up with?
It may seem like a large difference, but it likely isn't as big of a shift
as we are all thinking.
Just my opinion....
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Richard Dumoulin
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 10:02 AM
To: groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com; 'Richard Danu'; 'Hai Minh';
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE : RE : OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
Lol, Money money money ...
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Tony Schaffran [mailto:groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com]
Envoyi : Tuesday, December 28, 2004 3:59 PM @ : Richard Dumoulin; 'Richard
Danu'; 'Hai Minh'; ccielab@groupstudy.com Objet : RE: RE : OT: Re: CCIE hire
in Vietnam
I am not quite up to par when it comes to my history facts.
Too busy trying to make $10,000.00 this month. :)
Tony Schaffran
Network Analyst
CCIE #11071
CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
www.cconlinelabs.com
Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Richard Dumoulin
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 6:53 AM
To: Tony Schaffran; 'Richard Danu'; 'Hai Minh'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE : OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
Maybe you can answer your own question. Without offending, there was a time
when the US was very interested in Vietnam. Why was that?
-- Richard
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Tony Schaffran [mailto:groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com]
Envoyi : Tuesday, December 28, 2004 3:25 PM @ : 'Richard Danu'; 'Hai Minh';
ccielab@groupstudy.com Objet : RE: OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
You say the cost of living in Vietnam is low but why in the world would,
let's say, someone from the US making $10,000.00 a month want to move half
way around the world to make $2,000.00 a month?
What is the incentive? Throw us a bone here.
Tony Schaffran
Network Analyst
CCIE #11071
CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
www.cconlinelabs.com
Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Richard Danu
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 6:00 AM
To: 'Hai Minh'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
How about CCIE making hamburgers in Vietnam?
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Hai
Minh
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 4:54 AM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
What do you mean "degraded" ?
Do you want to say about the salary ?
How much does a hamburger cost in US ?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yasser Aly" <yaseraly00@yahoo.com>
To: "Nguyen Hoang Long" <ng-hlong@hn.vnn.vn>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
> Hello,
>
> Is the CCIE value degraded that much ??
>
> Accepting such rates means that CCIE value is degrading !!
>
> Just my openion.
>
>
> Nguyen Hoang Long <ng-hlong@hn.vnn.vn> wrote:
> hi group,
> Sorry for unclear information, this vacancy is for valid CCIE ( not
> CCIE
> written)
>
> Thanks
> Long
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nguyen Hoang Long"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 5:37 PM
> Subject: CCIE hide in Vietnam
>
>
> > Hi group,
> >
> > There's a vacancy for CCIE in Vietnam ( either Hanoi capical or Ho
> > chi minh
> > city) in one of the key Cisco's SI.
> > The position is also very flexible, can be either post-sales or
> > consultant.
> > Salary : negotiate, around 1-2 K US (NET) plus incentive / month (
> > note that daily expense, house rental in Vietnam is very cheap)
> >
> > Vietnam is in the infrastructure development phase, the number of
> > in-country CCIE is only 10, that means CCIE has good chance to
> > involve in
interesting
> > projects.
> >
> > Anyone interested, send me an off-line e-mail.
> >
> > Nguyen Hoang Long, #11898
> > ng-hlong@hn.vnn.vn
> >
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