From: joshua lauer (jslauer@hotmail.com)
Date: Tue Dec 28 2004 - 12:26:21 GMT-3
As long as I get the hamburger and a rack of equipment I'll be fine :)
JL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Dumoulin" <Richard.Dumoulin@vanco.fr>
To: <groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com>; <swm@emanon.com>; "'Richard Danu'"
<rdanu@apex3.com>; "'Hai Minh'" <minh@ipmac.com.vn>;
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 10:14 AM
Subject: RE : RE : OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
> After after, CCIE is not the way to become rich then :-(
>
> -- Richard
> CCIE #13891
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Tony Schaffran [mailto:groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com]
> Envoyi : Tuesday, December 28, 2004 4:12 PM
> @ : swm@emanon.com; Richard Dumoulin; 'Richard Danu'; 'Hai Minh';
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Objet : RE: RE : OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
>
> I hear you there.
>
> After taxes and expenses I actually only take home about $50.00 a month.
> :)
>
> And the wife gets half of that.
>
> Tony Schaffran
> Network Analyst
> CCIE #11071
> CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
> NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
>
> www.cconlinelabs.com
> Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Morris [mailto:swm@emanon.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 7:09 AM
> To: 'Richard Dumoulin'; groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com; 'Richard Danu'; 'Hai
> Minh'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: RE : OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
>
> Also, consider some of the side benefits....
>
> He mentioned "net" 1-2K USD each month. With very little cost for living
> there compared to the US, that makes it mostly take-home pay. Also, per
> IRS
> rules, your first $80K earned abroad is tax free (may have increased since
> last I looked), so that's another extra bit of money in the end.
>
> When you make $120K/year (10K/month), what kind of take home do you really
> have out of that? And when you look at your monthly living expenses, what
> kind of money do you really end up with?
>
> It may seem like a large difference, but it likely isn't as big of a shift
> as we are all thinking.
>
> Just my opinion....
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Richard Dumoulin
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 10:02 AM
> To: groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com; 'Richard Danu'; 'Hai Minh';
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE : RE : OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
>
> Lol, Money money money ...
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Tony Schaffran [mailto:groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com]
> Envoyi : Tuesday, December 28, 2004 3:59 PM @ : Richard Dumoulin; 'Richard
> Danu'; 'Hai Minh'; ccielab@groupstudy.com Objet : RE: RE : OT: Re: CCIE
> hire
> in Vietnam
>
> I am not quite up to par when it comes to my history facts.
>
> Too busy trying to make $10,000.00 this month. :)
>
> Tony Schaffran
> Network Analyst
> CCIE #11071
> CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
> NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
>
> www.cconlinelabs.com
> Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Richard Dumoulin
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 6:53 AM
> To: Tony Schaffran; 'Richard Danu'; 'Hai Minh'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE : OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
>
> Maybe you can answer your own question. Without offending, there was a
> time
> when the US was very interested in Vietnam. Why was that?
>
> -- Richard
>
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Tony Schaffran [mailto:groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com]
> Envoyi : Tuesday, December 28, 2004 3:25 PM @ : 'Richard Danu'; 'Hai
> Minh';
> ccielab@groupstudy.com Objet : RE: OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
>
> You say the cost of living in Vietnam is low but why in the world would,
> let's say, someone from the US making $10,000.00 a month want to move half
> way around the world to make $2,000.00 a month?
>
> What is the incentive? Throw us a bone here.
>
> Tony Schaffran
> Network Analyst
> CCIE #11071
> CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
> NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
>
> www.cconlinelabs.com
> Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Richard Danu
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 6:00 AM
> To: 'Hai Minh'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
>
> How about CCIE making hamburgers in Vietnam?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Hai
> Minh
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 4:54 AM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
>
> What do you mean "degraded" ?
> Do you want to say about the salary ?
> How much does a hamburger cost in US ?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yasser Aly" <yaseraly00@yahoo.com>
> To: "Nguyen Hoang Long" <ng-hlong@hn.vnn.vn>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 4:05 PM
> Subject: Re: OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
>
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Is the CCIE value degraded that much ??
>>
>> Accepting such rates means that CCIE value is degrading !!
>>
>> Just my openion.
>>
>>
>> Nguyen Hoang Long <ng-hlong@hn.vnn.vn> wrote:
>> hi group,
>> Sorry for unclear information, this vacancy is for valid CCIE ( not
>> CCIE
>> written)
>>
>> Thanks
>> Long
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Nguyen Hoang Long"
>> To:
>> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 5:37 PM
>> Subject: CCIE hide in Vietnam
>>
>>
>> > Hi group,
>> >
>> > There's a vacancy for CCIE in Vietnam ( either Hanoi capical or Ho
>> > chi minh
>> > city) in one of the key Cisco's SI.
>> > The position is also very flexible, can be either post-sales or
>> > consultant.
>> > Salary : negotiate, around 1-2 K US (NET) plus incentive / month (
>> > note that daily expense, house rental in Vietnam is very cheap)
>> >
>> > Vietnam is in the infrastructure development phase, the number of
>> > in-country CCIE is only 10, that means CCIE has good chance to
>> > involve in
> interesting
>> > projects.
>> >
>> > Anyone interested, send me an off-line e-mail.
>> >
>> > Nguyen Hoang Long, #11898
>> > ng-hlong@hn.vnn.vn
>> >
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