RE: RE : Internetwork Expert and VaporWare

From: Brian Dennis (bdennis@internetworkexpert.com)
Date: Sat Nov 13 2004 - 19:28:14 GMT-3


Andy,
        The technology labs are being developed in a very structured
manner with the foundation topics being covered first. We currently are
finishing up the technology labs along with the first series of IPv6
labs. Then we will be working on the advanced technology labs.

        As a side note, the price is only $15 a month until we reach
roughly three or four times the number of technology labs we have now.
There are nearly 400 more technology labs in the works (not including
the advanced technology labs). Once we reach that point, the price of
the lab subscription will be increased as we can't be expected to charge
only 4 cents per lab. This means that people that purchase the lab
subscriptions now will be grandfathered in when we increase the price.

        Lastly, we will always be adding new labs each month as the CCIE
lab evolves.

Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security)
bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
 
Internetwork Expert, Inc.
http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
Toll Free: 877-224-8987
Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Andy
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 11:21 AM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: RE : Internetwork Expert and VaporWare

I have a subscription , and I like the idea but so far feel the content
is
too basic... For example the Qos sections , dont have a lot of detail ,
it
shows just basic commands , this same information can be easily found in
command reference , which actually has more detail .... I was hoping to
see
detailed examples within a given qos section such as Legacy Custom
queuing ,
which shows just commands no examples with the process to go thorugh and
calculate byte count ... My issue is you pay $140 bucks for a 1 year
subscrption and time is ticking away , meaning I may be 6 months through
my
subscription before any detailed good posts are there.... Just my 2
cents..

-andy

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
Richard Dumoulin
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 11:13 AM
To: Brian McGahan; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE : Internetwork Expert and VaporWare

The idea sounds great to me. It would be good to include Security topics
too
:-)

--Richard

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Brian McGahan [mailto:bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com]
Envoyi : Saturday, November 13, 2004 2:46 AM
@ : ccielab@groupstudy.com
Objet : RE: Internetwork Expert and VaporWare

Hi David,

        I see that the subscription you're logging in to the
technologies lab with is not registered under your name, nor have you
ever been a customer of Internetwork Expert. Furthermore, the only
reference I can see to a "David Sloan" on groupstudy is the following
post:

http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/ccielab/200211/msg00503.html

David A. Sloan
President, I P expert . net
CCIE #6976, CCSI #21666 (Rt.)

        Is this you David, or am I mistaken? I find it odd that instead
of contacting Internetwork Expert directly for any legitimate product
related questions you instead choose to slander us on a public mailing
list.

        For those of you wondering about the legitimacy of this claim,
yes it is true the lab series is not complete. However, the idea of
this new format we're delivering the content in is that instead of
waiting months for a new product to be released, we are offering this
series on a subscription basis that costs about $12 per month.

        This way we can continue development on the series indefinitely
and it will never become obsolete. In other words the series will NEVER
be complete. I have personally been posting the labs in this series
every day since its release about two weeks ago. There are currently
over 75 labs in the series, such as:

Understanding Layer 2 Access Switchports
Understanding ISL Trunk Ports
Understanding 802.1q Trunk Ports
Understanding 802.1q Trunk Ports and the Native VLAN
Configuring Trunk Ports without DTP
Router-on-a-Stick
Router-on-a-Stick and the Native VLAN
EtherChannel
EtherChannel - PAgP
EtherChannel - PagP Auto
EtherChannel - LACP
EtherChannel - LACP Passive
EtherChannel - Layer 3
Frame-Relay Inverse-ARP
Frame-Relay Static Mapping 1
Frame-Relay Inverse-ARP & Static Mappings
Frame-Relay Multipoint Interfaces: Inverse-ARP
Frame-Relay Multipoint Interfaces: Static Mappings
Frame-Relay Multipoint Interfaces: Inverse-ARP & Static Mappings
Frame-Relay Point-to-Point Subinterfaces
Frame-Relay Point-to-Point Subinterfaces and Main Interfaces:
Inverse-ARP
Frame-Relay Point-to-Point Subinterfaces and Main Interfaces: Static
Mappings
Frame-Relay Point-to-Point Subinterfaces and Multipoint Subinterfaces:
Inverse-ARP
Frame-Relay Point-to-Point Subinterfaces and Multipoint Subinterfaces:
Static Mapping
Frame-Relay Main Interface: Inverse-ARP, Multipoint Interface:
Inverse-ARP
Frame-Relay Main Interface: Inverse-ARP, Multipoint Interface: Static
Mapping
Frame-Relay Main Interface: Static Mapping, Multipoint Interface:
Inverse-ARP
Frame-Relay Main Interface: Static Mapping, Multipoint Interface: Static
Mapping
Frame-Relay Hub-and-Spoke, Main Interfaces with Inverse-ARP
Frame-Relay Hub-and-Spoke, Main Interfaces w/ Inverse-ARP & Static
Mappings
Frame-Relay Hub-and-Spoke, Main Interfaces w/ Static Mappings
Frame-Relay Hub-and-Spoke, Main Interfaces w/ Inverse-ARP &
Point-to-Point Subinterfaces
Frame-Relay Hub-and-Spoke, Main Interfaces w/ Static Mappings &
Point-to-Point Subinterfaces
ATM PVC Main Interface w/ Inverse-ARP
ATM PVC Main Interface w/ Static Mapping
ATM PVC Main Interface w/ Legacy Static Mapping
ATM PVC Multipoint Subinterface w/ Inverse-ARP
ATM PVC Multipoint Subinterface w/ Static Mapping
ATM PVC Point-to-Point Subinterface
ATM PVC Discovery w/ Main Interface
ATM PVC Discovery w/ Multipoint Subinterface
ATM PVC Discovery w/ Point-to-Point Subinterface
ATM SVC Static Mapping w/ Main Interface
ATM SVC Static Mapping w/ Main Interface & Static NSAP
ATM SVC Static Mapping w/ Multipoint Subinterface
ATM SVC CLIP w/ Remote ARP-Server
ATM SVC CLIP w/ Local ARP-Server
ISDN Layer 2 Connectivity
ISDN Legacy DDR
ISDN Dialer Profiles
ISDN Legacy DDR and Dialer Profiles
ISDN Dialer Load-Threshold
ISDN Dialer Load-Threshold (II)
Legacy DDR with PPP
ISDN Legacy DDR without Dialer Maps w/HDLC
ISDN Legacy DDR with PPP and Dynamic Dialer Maps
ISDN Legacy DDR with PPP PAP Authentication
ISDN Legacy DDR with PPP CHAP Authentication
Legacy Custom Queueing
MQC Bandwidth
Legacy Priority Queueing
MQC Low Latency Queue
Legacy Generic Traffic Shaping
MQC Shaping
Legacy Frame Relay Traffic Shaping
MQC Frame Relay Traffic Shaping
Legacy Committed Access Rate
MQC Policing
DLSw+ TCP Encapsulation
DLSw+ FST Encapsulation
DLSw+ Direct over Frame Relay
DLSw+ Lite over Frame Relay
DLSw+ Direct over HDLC

        If anyone else has any questions related to this product you can
email me offlist or find me on our chat server at
http://www.internetworkexpert.com/chat/

Thanks,

Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593
bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com

Internetwork Expert, Inc.
http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
Toll Free: 877-224-8987 x 705
Outside US: 775-826-4344 x 705
24/7 Support: http://forum.internetworkexpert.com
Live Chat: http://www.internetworkexpert.com/chat/

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> David Sloan
> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 7:06 PM
> To: ccie2be@nyc.rr.com
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Internetwork Expert and VaporWare
>
> Because it's their product... Go to their website... It's a new
product.
>
>
> >From: "ccie2be" <ccie2be@nyc.rr.com>
> >To: "David Sloan" <jadin_321@hotmail.com>, <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >Subject: Re: Internetwork Expert and VaporWare
> >Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 20:02:51 -0500
> >
> >What does the CCIE Routing & Technologies Labs have to do with
> Internetwork
> >Expert (IE)?
> >
> >Those guys at IE, Brian Dennis and Brian McGahan, are giants in
> networking
> >and they've created the best practice labs workbook on the market
IMHO.
> >
> >From the subject line of your post, it sounds like you're slandering
the
> >best ccie prep company out there today.
> >
> >Tim
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "David Sloan" <jadin_321@hotmail.com>
> >To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 7:32 PM
> >Subject: Internetwork Expert and VaporWare
> >
> >
> > > FYI for anyone interested in subscribing to the "CCIE Routing &
> >Technologies
> > > Labs."
> > >
> > > Most of subjects listed under each of the three catagories aren't
even
> > > available yet. The most rediculous item is this though. The
first
> >line
> >of
> > > the description is:
> > >
> > > "Are you looking to isolate your CCIE lab preparation on an
individual
> >topic
> > > basis? Tired of spending hours setting up a lab topology just to
see
> how
> >BGP
> > > works?"
> > >
> > > You won't find any BGP here... Yet.
> > >
> > > My advice.. Wait til the vapor materializes.
> > >
> > >
>



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