RE: qos for voice

From: Richard Dumoulin (richard.dumoulin@vanco.es)
Date: Fri Aug 13 2004 - 07:33:47 GMT-3


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I mean the voice packets once they travel between the voice gateways :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos G Mendioroz [mailto:tron@huapi.ba.ar]
Sent: viernes, 13 de agosto de 2004 12:12
To: Richard Dumoulin
Cc: Scott Morris; 'lab'
Subject: Re: qos for voice

Yep,
the restriction is only for Voip phones. No phones in the WAN for CME
for the time being (supported at least :-)

Richard Dumoulin wrote:

> There's no RTCP between the ephones and CME but there is between the
> Voice gateways I think, no ?
>
> --Richard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carlos G Mendioroz [mailto:tron@huapi.ba.ar]
> Sent: viernes, 13 de agosto de 2004 11:35
> To: Scott Morris
> Cc: 'Steven A Ridder'; 'John Matus'; 'lab'
> Subject: Re: qos for voice
>
>
> Scott Morris wrote:
>
> > Actually, voice streams use a pair of ports (even and odd) for RTP
> and > RTCP stuff (voice data and control).
>
> This depends on what the endpoints are.
> Although true for CCM, this does not hold, e.g., for CME to Voip phone
> AFAIK. No RTCP there.
>
> >
> > The rtp priority command with "16384 16383" numbers isn't a range.
> In > that command, it's the starting port and number of ports >
> (16384+16383=32767) whereas the other command actually is a range with
> > start and stop information. >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > Of Steven A Ridder
> > Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 8:57 PM
> > To: 'John Matus'; swm@emanon.com; 'lab'
> > Subject: RE: qos for voice
> >
> > The difference between the 1st and 2nd statement is as follows:
> >
> > The first statement (the udp 16384...) matched the payload and
> > signal/control traffic where the "IP RTP" statement captures the data
> > packets only. The first statement ensures that ALL RTP traffic
> > (payload and
> > signal) packets get matched. If I remember correctly, each RTP
> stream uses
> > 4 consecutive ports, starting with the first even port above 16384,
> so the
> > first stream uses 16384-16387. It's been a while, but I think that's
> > correct.
> >
> > Steve Ridder
> >
> >
> > -- RFC 1049 Compliant
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > Of John Matus
> > Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 8:08 PM
> > To: swm@emanon.com; 'lab'
> > Subject: Re: qos for voice
> >
> > i have no idea if it is working........it's a lab scenario
> >
> > i wasn't sure if the 'match rtp' somehow included the tcp 1720. i
> really
> > don't understand the difference between the two statements or why or
> > why not they would be used. any insite you could give would be most
> > helpful!
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Scott Morris" <swm@emanon.com>
> > To: "'John Matus'" <jmatus@pacbell.net>; "'lab'"
> > <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 4:36 PM
> > Subject: RE: qos for voice
> >
> >
> >
> >>Well, off the cuff, it would appear that you aren't matching the H225
> >>call setup (tcp/1720) in your second class. Otherwise, you are either
> >>matching on the RTP header or the UDP header information.
> >>
> >>Do they both work for you? ;)
> >>
> >>
> >>Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> >>CISSP, JNCIP, et al. IPExpert CCIE Program Manager
> >>IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> >>swm@emanon.com/smorris@ipexpert.net
> >>http://www.ipexpert.net
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> >>Of
> >
> > John
> >
> >>Matus
> >>Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 6:29 PM
> >>To: lab
> >>Subject: qos for voice
> >>
> >>is there a difference between the following??
> >>
> >>class-map match-all voip
> >>match access-group 101
> >>
> >>access-list 101 permit tcp any any 1720
> >>access-list 101 permit udp any any range 16384 32787
> >>
> >>AND
> >>
> >>class-map match-all voip
> >>match ip rtp 16384 16383
> >>
> >>
> >>do they perform the same function or are they completely different.
> >>i'm confused :)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>John D. Matus
> >>MCSE, CCNP
> >>Office: 818-782-2061
> >>Cell: 818-430-8372
> >>jmatus@pacbell.net
> >>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I mean the voice packets once they travel between the = voice gateways :-)</FONT> </P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Carlos G Mendioroz [<A = HREF=3D"mailto:tron@huapi.ba.ar">mailto:tron@huapi.ba.ar</A>] </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: viernes, 13 de agosto de 2004 12:12</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Richard Dumoulin</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cc: Scott Morris; 'lab'</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Re: qos for voice</FONT> </P> <BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Yep,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>the restriction is only for Voip phones. No phones = in the WAN for CME </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>for the time being (supported at least :-)</FONT> </P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Richard Dumoulin wrote:</FONT> </P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; There's no RTCP between the ephones and CME but = there is between the</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Voice gateways I think, no ?</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; --Richard</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From: Carlos G Mendioroz [<A = HREF=3D"mailto:tron@huapi.ba.ar">mailto:tron@huapi.ba.ar</A>]</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: viernes, 13 de agosto de 2004 = 11:35</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To: Scott Morris</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Cc: 'Steven A Ridder'; 'John Matus'; = 'lab'</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: Re: qos for voice</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Scott Morris wrote:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; Actually, voice streams use a pair = of ports (even and odd) for RTP </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; and&nbsp; &gt; RTCP stuff (voice data and = control).</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; This depends on what the endpoints are.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Although true for CCM, this does not hold, = e.g., for CME to Voip phone </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; AFAIK. No RTCP there.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; The rtp priority command with = &quot;16384 16383&quot; numbers isn't a range.&nbsp; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; In&nbsp; &gt; that command, it's the starting = port and number of ports&nbsp; &gt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; (16384+16383=3D32767) whereas the other command = actually is a range with&nbsp; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; start and stop information.&nbsp; = &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; HTH,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; Scott</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; From: nobody@groupstudy.com [<A = HREF=3D"mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com">mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com</A>] = On Behalf</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; Of Steven A Ridder</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 8:57 = PM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; To: 'John Matus'; swm@emanon.com; = 'lab'</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; Subject: RE: qos for voice</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; The difference between the 1st and = 2nd statement is as follows:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; The first statement (the udp = 16384...) matched the payload and</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; signal/control traffic where the = &quot;IP RTP&quot;&nbsp; statement captures the data</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; packets only.&nbsp; The first = statement ensures that ALL RTP traffic</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; (payload and</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; signal) packets get matched.&nbsp; = If I remember correctly, each RTP </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; stream uses</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; 4 consecutive ports, starting with = the first even port above 16384, </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; so the</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; first stream uses 16384-16387.&nbsp; = It's been a while, but I think that's</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; correct.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; Steve Ridder</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; -- RFC 1049 Compliant</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; From: nobody@groupstudy.com [<A = HREF=3D"mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com">mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com</A>] = On Behalf</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; Of John Matus</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 8:08 = PM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; To: swm@emanon.com; 'lab'</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; Subject: Re: qos for voice</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; i have no idea if it is = working........it's a lab scenario</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; i wasn't sure if the 'match rtp' = somehow included the tcp 1720.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; i </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; really</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; don't understand the difference = between the two statements or why or</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; why not they would be used.&nbsp; = any insite you could give would be most</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; helpful!</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; ----- Original Message -----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; From: &quot;Scott Morris&quot; = &lt;swm@emanon.com&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; To: &quot;'John Matus'&quot; = &lt;jmatus@pacbell.net&gt;; &quot;'lab'&quot;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; = &lt;ccielab@groupstudy.com&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 4:36 = PM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; Subject: RE: qos for voice</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;Well, off the cuff, it would = appear that you aren't matching the H225</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;call setup (tcp/1720) in your = second class.&nbsp; Otherwise, you are either</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;matching on the RTP header or the = UDP header information.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;Do they both work for you?&nbsp; = ;)</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;Scott Morris, CCIE4 = (R&amp;S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;CISSP, JNCIP, et al. IPExpert = CCIE Program Manager</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;IPExpert Sr. Technical = Instructor</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; = &gt;&gt;swm@emanon.com/smorris@ipexpert.net</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;<A = HREF=3D"http://www.ipexpert.net" = TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.ipexpert.net></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;From: nobody@groupstudy.com [<A = HREF=3D"mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com">mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com</A>] = On Behalf</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;Of</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; John</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;Matus</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 = 6:29 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;To: lab</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;Subject: qos for voice</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;is there a difference between the = following??</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;class-map match-all voip</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;match access-group 101</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;access-list 101 permit tcp any = any 1720</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;access-list 101 permit udp any = any range 16384 32787</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;AND</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;class-map match-all voip</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;match ip rtp 16384 16383</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;do they perform the same function = or are they completely different. </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;i'm confused :)</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;John D. 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