From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Tue Jul 27 2004 - 09:27:29 GMT-3
However, the NSAP-Prefix in the case of ATM can be a learned value (e.g. not
given on your exam) and you should be able to figure it out easily enough.
They may also tell you to use the same area ID for IS-IS as your ATM
connection does, which again, leads you to need to discover it rather than
makingt things up.
But otherwise, as Brian states, if nothing is told to you (read CAREFULLY
though to be sure!) then you may create whatever you want.
Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, CISSP,
JNCIP, et al.
IPExpert CCIE Program Manager
IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor
swm@emanon.com/smorris@ipexpert.net
http://www.ipexpert.net
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Brian McGahan
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 12:23 AM
To: marc van hoof; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: IS-IS and lack of CLNS addressing
Marc,
They may or may not, but IS-IS NET addressing need not conform to
the ISO CLNS standard. I.e. if they don't tell you what area to use feel
free to use whatever you want.
ATM on the other hand is a different story. Unless you are doing
CLIP configuration where some remote device is the ARP server, the NSAP
address (or at least ESI address) must be provided for you.
HTH,
Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: marc van hoof [mailto:mvh@marcvanhoof.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 11:19 PM
> To: Brian McGahan; 'john matijevic'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: IS-IS and lack of CLNS addressing
>
> Does this mean that, within the lab, NSAP/NET addresses and
domain/area
> strings will be supplied for any tasks that require IS-IS or ATM SVC's
> to be configured ?
>
> regards,
> -marc.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian McGahan [mailto:bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 2:07 PM
> To: john matijevic; marc van hoof; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: IS-IS and lack of CLNS addressing
>
>
> Integrated IS-IS, or IP extensions to IS-IS, is within the scope of
> the lab exam. CLNS routing (i.e. CLNP & CMNP) is not. Although IS-IS
> is part of the CLNS stack, only the portion that relates to IP
> (Integrated IS-IS) is still within the scope of the lab exam.
>
> Also, ATM does not relate to CLNS. Although ATM SVCs use the ISO
> NSAP addressing format, the two technologies are unrelated.
>
> HTH,
>
> Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593
> bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com
>
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > john matijevic
> > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 6:53 PM
> > To: 'marc van hoof'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: IS-IS and lack of CLNS addressing
> >
> > Hello Marc,
> > I can see your confusion now after looking at this. I used to use
that
> > same document before. But now they have an updated one, as the one
> I've
> > included in my previous post. I would go by the document that I sent
> you
> > earlier. I can see the confusion. I would send an email to Cisco,
> > stating your concern, than maybe they can be more specific in
regards
> to
> > the IS-IS protocol. I did study CLNS when I studied the IS-IS
> > technologies, even with the document that you just showed me that
said
> > it had been removed.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > John Matijevic, CCIE #13254, MCSE, CNE, CCEA Network Consultant
> > Hablo Espanol
> > 305-321-6232
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: marc van hoof [mailto:mvh@marcvanhoof.com]
> > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 7:43 PM
> > To: 'john matijevic'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: IS-IS and lack of CLNS addressing
> >
> >
>
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/learning/le3/ccie/rs/preparing_lab_exam.html
> >
> > >
> > The protocols below have been removed from the lab exam content but
> may
> > remain on the Routing and Switching written exam. (For a list of
> topics
> > appearing on the written exam please review the Written Exam
> Blueprint.)
> >
> > LAT
> > DECnet
> > Apollo
> > Banyan VINES
> > ISO CLNS <------------------------------
> > XNS
> > ATM LANE
> > X.25
> > AppleTalk
> > IGRP
> > Token Ring
> > Token Ring Switching
> > IPX
> >
> > Hey John,
> >
> > I was just going by this - am i misunderstanding something ?
> >
> > cheers,
> > -marc.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: john matijevic [mailto:matijevi@bellsouth.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 9:02 AM
> > To: 'marc van hoof'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: IS-IS and lack of CLNS addressing
> >
> >
> > Hi Marc,
> > >From the lab exam blueprint, I could only gather that they will be
> > testing you on IS-IS and ATM. I could not find where it says that it
> > wont test you on CLNS.
> >
> >
>
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/learning/le3/ccie/rs/lab_exam_blueprint.html
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > John Matijevic, CCIE #13254, MCSE, CNE, CCEA Network Consultant
> > Hablo Espanol
> > 305-321-6232
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > marc van hoof
> > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 6:50 PM
> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: IS-IS and lack of CLNS addressing
> >
> > Hey all,
> >
> > just a quick intro and question...
> >
> > firstly, i'm marc from melbourne, australia - scheduled to do my
first
> > lab attempt on 26th august..... (fingers crossed)
> >
> > secondly, the lab says that they will not test you on CLNS but they
> will
> > test you on both ATM and IS-IS... does this mean that all clns
> addresses
> > necessary for these technologies will be provided ?
> >
> > thanks heaps,
> > -marc.
> >
> >
>
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