From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Wed Jul 07 2004 - 16:46:04 GMT-3
It is a completely different focus than the lab... The written exam is more
focussed on general networking theories and some (note: some) real-world
applications thereof. So it's a technical written exam. On the other hand,
the lab is geared towards seeing what you can actually accomplish given
pressure and instruction.
As for a financial benefit, I would say that the written exam definitely
adds to the financial benefit of Vue/Prometric, but not really to Cisco.
Just one of those things. :)
As for it being an achievement status, while you could technically tell
people you are a "CCIE Candidate", I do not believe this is a term you are
allowed to use on marketing material for yourself as it isn't an "approved"
status.
You have to remember that the CCIE program was out first, and is by itself.
The CCNA/NP/DA/DP and CQS stuff are all handled by a different group who is
also responsible for training. So there is a more concrete relationship to
exams and courseware and a learning path. There is no such foundation or
real "path" with the CCIE.
So, while some topics may be the same, the focus is different for the
written exam versus the lab. On the written, people may care that you know
what the "v" bit in OSPF represents. On the lab, nobody cares, but you
should know how to make it happen (although I've never heard of the lab
scenario actually say "Make the V-bit in OSPF appear in the database for
these routes").
So, as you said, it's a different perspective.
HTH,
Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, CISSP,
JNCIP, et al.
IPExpert CCIE Program Manager
IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor
swm@emanon.com/smorris@ipexpert.net
http://www.ipexpert.net
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From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Godswill Oletu
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 12:35 AM
To: cisco@groupstudy.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: CCIE Written & CCIE Lab, mirage or mirror twin?
Hi Guys,
I am kind of curious?
How much does the CCIE written exam prepares one for the Lab? What benefits
derived from the written exam are of great value in the Lab? In terms of
expectations, Knowledge tested, content, etc can it be truly said that the
CCIE written exam is a good foundation for the Lab? Just like the CCDA is a
foundation for CCDP and CCNA a foundation for CCNP.
Is the CCIE written exam more of a financial benefit to Cisco than it is a
benefit to the candidate's preparations to what is to be expected in the Lab
and in real life?
Can it be truly said that the CCIE written is the theoretical equivalent of
the Lab? How relevant are the materials presented at the written exam
compared to the Lab?
Is the written exam more of a mirage than a mirror of the Lab? It is called
the "CCIE qualifying Exam", Is that an achievement status or more an
administrative term?
IMHO, the Lab would have been alot more easier to pass at first attempt if
the written exam was at per with it.
Your contributions and options are welcome.
NOTE:
I am not out against anyone nor Cisco, I am purely seeking to know, in order
to put my expectations in proper perspective.
Thanks.
Godswill Oletu
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