From: James (james@towardex.com)
Date: Wed Jul 07 2004 - 16:50:21 GMT-3
Hi,
> In my opinion, RIPv1 should still be tested in the lab. RIPv1 has lots of intricacies in understanding the logic taking place inside the router which, to me, is ultimately what the CCIE is testing. Not only that, but many, many companies out there are still running RIPv1, either due to support on legacy equipment or just because there is no business need to upgrade. I see engineers all the time that have no idea how RIPv1 works, and they have one heck of a time getting an application to communicate with it because they simply don't understand the internal logic.
I am not sure if I would agree.. Classful routing is deprecated, period.
Yes, there are companies out there still using classful routing protos and
maintain "if it ain't broken, don't fix it" status of their network.
Nevertheless, the moment they connect their enterprise network into the live
public internet, converting their internal network space to public IP's (hence,
change from "if it aint broken, dont fix it" status) unless they are a legacy
pre-RIR member with significant amount of PI space to waste, they will be
forced by their respective ISP's (if they are getting PA space) to utilize CIDR,
if not, by their respective RIR to use CIDR if they are getting their new PI
space.
It is indeed time for Cisco to start catching up with its routing platform
competition and completely realize that classful routing is soo 20th century.
If there are people who are still calling /24, a "Class C", in which there are
lots of them everywhere, get out your favorite clue bat and feel free to teach
them the hard way :)
>
> I'd much rather see IS-IS be dropped from the R&S and left for the Service Provider exam, while keeping RIPv1 in the R&S. I think it would force R&S CCIE's to have a much better understanding of the protocols that will help them in the real world within the scope of an enterprise, where I believe the focus is for the CCIE R&S.
IS-IS is just another link state protocol with similarity to OSPF. It's just
that service providers tend to use ISIS over OSPF. I think it should be
considered a critical routing topic. There is no excuse it should be dropped
from R&S just because mostly service providers use it.
-J
>
> Just my $0.02.
>
> Ken
>
> ________________________________
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> From: nobody@groupstudy.com on behalf of Joseph D. Phillips
> Sent: Wed 7/7/2004 3:02 PM
> To: group study
> Subject: RE: RIPv1 on the Lab
>
>
>
> Quite welcome. I hated RIPv1 anyway.
>
>
> ----- Original message -----
> From: jean.paul.baaklini@accenture.com
> To: josephdphillips@fastmail.us, ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 18:26:34 +0200
> Subject: RE: RIPv1 on the Lab
>
> Thanks Joseph!!!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Joseph D. Phillips
> Sent: 07 July 2004 17:05
> To: group study
> Subject: Re: RIPv1 on the Lab
>
> RIPv1 is OFF the lab. Don't bother with it. The proctor has told me in
> each of my three attempts that this is so.
>
>
> ----- Original message -----
> From: "Peter van Oene" <pvo@usermail.com>
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 08:14:05 -0400
> Subject: Re: RIPv1 on the Lab
>
> At 05:00 AM 7/7/2004, jean.paul.baaklini@accenture.com wrote:
> >Hi Group,
> >
> >The CCIE lab exam blueprint shows that RIPv2 will be tested during the
> >lab. It doesn't say anything about RIPv1. Does it mean that RIPv1 won't
> >be tested?
>
> If you plan to be a CCIE, I hope you can manage a rip setup ;-) I'd be
> ready for it myself. You might actually see it in the real world as
> well.
>
>
> >Thanks
> >
> >Regards,
> >JP
> >
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