From: Khan, Ahmad (ahmad.khan@eds.com)
Date: Mon Jun 21 2004 - 11:45:25 GMT-3
Mr. Jason Graun:
Yourself from time to time have shown insensitivities towards others on this
very list and more than one occasion you have shown your so called "pissed
off" behavior towards someone who was sharing his good news of attaining the
CCIE status. You raised the doubts and humiliated them. Don't even talk
about "compassion for anybody" and "celebration for life" talk. That does
not suit you at all. But that was one-to-one, but your comments below to
that guy was really out of line. It really shows what you really are. You
should be ashamed of yourself.
I am not trying to defend that person. He was insensitive as well by saying
those things for a person like Scott. We all know Scott's great contribution
and we all felt bad by his remarks. But your comments, boy, I still cannot
believe how low a person can be.
Ahmad
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Jason Graun
Sent: June 21, 2004 9:46 AM
To: alijkhan@emirates.net.ae
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com; security@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: RE: Congratulations Scott Morris (Is this a technical
discusssion???)
Well the guy has his first kid and you send a message basically saying I
don't care lets just get the technical information and not have any
compassion for anybody. I wondered if you were a human being after
criticizing the group for the e-mail going around and calling it spam like
it was useless. You know I read a lot of stuff on the group that I don't
agree with but I pick my battles on what I respond with and what I give time
and energy to. Your negativity towards the situation got me pissed off.
Maybe my response e-mail was a bit harsh but celebrating life is always
worth time and energy!
Scott congratulations on the baby, the best of luck to you and your family!
Jason
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
alijkhan@emirates.net.ae
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 5:50 AM
To: jgraun@comcast.net
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com; security@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: RE: Congratulations Scott Morris (Is this a technical
discusssion???)
Dear All
Although I had just suggested that after congratulating Mr. Morris, we
should move back to technical discussions, the response below and others
like it which have been sent directly to me without being copied to the
list, shows the level of some of the people on this list.
There was a lot of discussion on this list after my email about the human
element and taking time out from CCIE studies. I have only one simple
question, is the email below a response from a fellow human being ???
I have had many other emails with similar content that really shows the sick
minds they are coming from. I am really sad to read these and I just wonder
what happened to freedom of expression mentioned below. Because whether we
agree or disagree on something, atleast respect for fellow humans should be
there. or does everything has to be like Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq?
regards
Ali J Khan
----- Original Message -----
From: Jason Graun <jgraun@comcast.net>
Date: Saturday, June 19, 2004 7:55 pm
Subject: RE: Congratulations Scott Morris (Is this a technical
discusssion???)
> Hey terrorist stop being a jackass, if you don't like it don't read
> it.
> This e-mail list was started in America were we have freedoms and God
> given rights. I realize that this might be a new concept for your
> terror based religion.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Ali
> Jamshed Khan
> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 10:34 PM
> To: Church, Chuck; Mike Stuckey; ccielab@groupstudy.com;
> security@groupstudy.com
> Cc: smorris@ipexpert.com
> Subject: Re: Congratulations Scott Morris (Is this a technical
> discusssion???)
>
> I think this is a STRICTLY technical study group and I see less
> congratulations when someone passes the CCIE.
> ok so Mr. Morris has done his job. Now can ALL OF U stop this
> mindlesschatter and stop SPAMMING my inbox with non-technical
> issues????
> Thanks in Advance
>
> Ali J Khan
> Emerging Technology Analyst
> I & eS, Etisalat
> Office: 04-2025544
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Church, Chuck" <cchurch@wamnetgov.com>
> To: "Mike Stuckey" <mstuckey@wantec.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>;
> <security@groupstudy.com>
> Cc: <smorris@ipexpert.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 10:07 PM
> Subject: RE: Congratulations Scott Morris
>
>
> > I think Scott had a little something to do with it, if my
> understanding> of human reproduction is correct...
> >
> >
> > Chuck Church
> > Lead Design Engineer
> > CCIE #8776, MCNE, MCSE
> > Wam!Net Government Services - Design & Implementation Team
> > 13665 Dulles Technology Dr. Ste 250
> > Herndon, VA 20171
> > Office: 703-480-2569
> > Cell: 703-819-3495
> > cchurch@wamnetgov.com
> > PGP key:
> >
> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=index&search=cchurch%
40wamnetgov.> com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Mike Stuckey
> > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 11:27 AM
> > To: mikram@bluewin.ch; MMoniz; Wayne Lawson;
ccielab@groupstudy.com;
> > security@groupstudy.com
> > Cc: jason@ipexpert.com; john@ipexpert.com; craig@ipexpert.com;
> > rob@ipexpert.com; smorris@ipexpert.com
> > Subject: RE: Congratulations Scott Morris
> >
> > Everyone is congratulating Scott. He didn't do anything. I
> would like
> > to congratulate his wife. So now Scott remember you are a Father
> not a
> > babysitter.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > --Mike
> >
> > Michael L. Stuckey, CCNA CCNP NSCA5.0a Network Specialist WAN
> > Technologies
> > 888-926-7771
> > www.wantec.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mikram@bluewin.ch [mikram@bluewin.ch]
> > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 9:30 AM
> > To: MMoniz; Wayne Lawson; ccielab@groupstudy.com;
> > security@groupstudy.com
> > Cc: jason@ipexpert.com; john@ipexpert.com; craig@ipexpert.com;
> > rob@ipexpert.com; smorris@ipexpert.com
> > Subject: RE: Congratulations Scott Morris
> >
> > Well done Scott, I guess now you wanna go for voice lab :-))
> >
> > Muhammad Ikram CCIE3
> > >-- Message original --
> > >From: "MMoniz" <ccie2002@tampabay.rr.com>
> > >To: "Wayne Lawson" <groupstudy@ipexpert.net>,
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>,> > <security@groupstudy.com>
> > >Cc: <jason@ipexpert.com>, <john@ipexpert.com>,
> <craig@ipexpert.com>,> > <rob@ipexpert.com>,
> <smorris@ipexpert.com>> >Subject: RE: Congratulations Scott Morris
> > >Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 18:05:05 -0400
> > >Reply-To: "MMoniz" <ccie2002@tampabay.rr.com>
> > >
> > >
> > >WOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOO
> > >
> > >Congrats Scott!!!!! Good thing you got "most" of your IE's out
> of the
> > way!!!
> > >
> > >Now it is time to become a different IE!!!! Poop IE, on the
> WALL IE,
> > >cat in toilet IE!!!!!! and many more IE's !!! lol
> > >
> > >Congrats man!!!
> > >
> > >Mike Moniz
> > >Student
> > >CCIE#13347
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: nobody@groupstudy.com [nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> > >Wayne Lawson
> > >Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 2:53 PM
> > >To: ccielab@groupstudy.com; security@groupstudy.com
> > >Cc: jason@ipexpert.com; john@ipexpert.com; craig@ipexpert.com;
> > >rob@ipexpert.com; smorris@ipexpert.com
> > >Subject: Congratulations Scott Morris
> > >
> > >
> > >Gang,
> > >
> > > Typically I wouldn't post something personal on this list, but
> many of
> > you
> > >know Scott personally - and he's been a valuable contributor to
> this> list!
> > >With that being said - I'd like to congratulate Scott Morris
> and his
> > >wife
> > >(Carrie) on the birth of their first child - daughter - Sydney
Ann.
> > >She was born bright and early this AM, both Carrie and the Baby
are
> > >doing find....Scott, well - he fainted and has a huge lump on
> his head!
> > >(grin).....Oh, Sydney has already passed the CCIE written and
> will be
> > >taking the lab shortly...Scott doesn't waste any time - does he?!?
> > >-smile-
> > >
> > >Thanks - We Truly Appreciate Your Business!
> > >
> > >Wayne A. Lawson II
> > >Founder & CEO - IPexpert, Inc.
> > >// CCIE #5244, CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CNE
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> > > wayne@IPexpert.com
> > >URL: http://www.IPexpert.com &
> > >
> > >"Self-Paced, Instructor Led & Distance Learning Certification
> Training> >for the CCIE (R&S, Sec, SP and Voice Lab), CCSP, CCNP,
> CCNA & Cisco
> > >Wireless Technologies"
> > >
> >
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