From: Larson, Chris (CLarson@usaid.gov)
Date: Tue Mar 25 2003 - 17:27:10 GMT-3
The CCIE and its value are relative to the person holding the CCIE and the
employer.
If your employer does not know what the CCIE is then why would you get a
raise for getting it and why is it important to him/her? If he or she
doesn't know what one is then they probably have no need for services at
that level (or don't know they need it) and therefore won't be inclined to
give a raise/bonus/commendation whatever.
I do not have my CCIE (yet), and it is unlikely that I will get a big
increase in pay because I already make a nice chunck of change. I am getting
the CCIE for the trip not the plaque. However, I also have 10+ years of
experience and have worked for large fortune 500 companie and the government
and have a great work history with good recommendations. If you are good at
what you do (networking) then I would think that would show and that you
will eventually hit a salary that was inline with what you are worth, your
experience and what you expect. I don't think the CCIE certificate alone is
hardly enough reason for a job, a bonus or a raise. From an employer
perspective I would imagine it has very little to do with anything excpet
maybe getting your foot in the door and or providing a contract company with
a needed body if their customer has a requirement that the position be
filled by a CCIE.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mohamed, Liban [GMG] [SMTP:Liban.Mohamed@mail.sprint.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 1:44 PM
> To: 'Lasserre, Gregory (Gregory)'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: The number of CCIEs grows faster today
>
> I think people are missing the point of getting CCIE. just because you
> have
> CCIE doesn't mean you are grantee a job. It's what you bring to the table.
> so I don't think CCIE lost it's value, If it did then this group should be
> closed. And Everyone is sacrificing to get this #.
>
>
>
> Liban Mohamed
> IP Engineer
> Sprintlink Backbone Engineering
> www.sprint.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lasserre, Gregory (Gregory) [mailto:lasserre@lucent.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 11:07 AM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: The number of CCIEs grows faster today
>
>
> As for me it seems clear that the CCIE certification
> has lost value...
>
> It's really a shame thinking of all the sacrifices
> we made to get it.
>
> Gregory.
>
> ---
>
> LUCENT Technologies O
> LWS - Professional Services
>
> Gregory LASSERRE
> Senior Network Consultant
>
> # CCIE 5882
> e-mail : lasserre@lucent.com
>
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : MADMAN [mailto:dmadlan@qwest.com]
> Envoye : mardi 25 mars 2003 15:32
> A : Phong Tran Tien
> Cc : ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Objet : Re: The number of CCIEs grows faster today
>
>
> The program actually started in 93, next to me is CCIE 1040, I took
> mine 2 1/2 years after so I would say it is growing more quickly;)
>
> Dave
>
> Phong Tran Tien wrote:
> > Hi group,
> >
> > I see the truth that the number of CCIEs grows faster today than before.
> I
> took and passed the lab on 19 March, got the number #11285 and I notice
> that
> Mr Ozan Ocal, CCIE #11318, got his number on 22 March. It means that we
> have
> about 33 new CCIEs (11318-11285) in only 3 days (19 to 22 March). Someone
> told me that the number of new CCIEs is 400 each month this year, is it
> true? If it is true, in this year we will have about new 4,800 CCIEs.
> >
> > The CCIE program started in 1994 and up to this time, it's about 10
> years
> long, and the total number of CCIEs in the world is now about 10,300 (the
> first CCIE got number 1025). It means that on average the number of CCIEs
> grows 1,030 each year (10,300/10). But compare with the number above,
> 4,800
> this year, how do you think? Does this mean that, when the number of CCIEs
> increases faster, CCIE certification is easier to get and the value of the
> certification decreases?
> >
> > Tran Tien Phong
> > CCIE #11285
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> David Madland
> CCIE# 2016
> Sr. Network Engineer
> Qwest Communications
> 612-664-3367
>
> I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one
> behind me."
> --- General George S. Patton
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