From: Voss, David (dvoss@heidrick.com)
Date: Tue Mar 25 2003 - 18:00:24 GMT-3
I was just about to finish an e-mail stating the same thing. Greed took
over during the boom. We are back to normal. Those who get CCIE now are
doing so because they simply want to master the ins and outs of IOS.
Great engineer = experience, education, people skills
CCIE is just 5% of what it takes to be a great engineer.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mohamed, Liban [GMG] [mailto:Liban.Mohamed@mail.sprint.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 12:44 PM
To: 'Lasserre, Gregory (Gregory)'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: The number of CCIEs grows faster today
I think people are missing the point of getting CCIE. just because you have
CCIE doesn't mean you are grantee a job. It's what you bring to the table.
so I don't think CCIE lost it's value, If it did then this group should be
closed. And Everyone is sacrificing to get this #.
Liban Mohamed
IP Engineer
Sprintlink Backbone Engineering
www.sprint.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Lasserre, Gregory (Gregory) [mailto:lasserre@lucent.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 11:07 AM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: The number of CCIEs grows faster today
As for me it seems clear that the CCIE certification
has lost value...
It's really a shame thinking of all the sacrifices
we made to get it.
Gregory.
---LUCENT Technologies O LWS - Professional Services
Gregory LASSERRE Senior Network Consultant
# CCIE 5882 e-mail : lasserre@lucent.com
-----Message d'origine----- De : MADMAN [mailto:dmadlan@qwest.com] Envoye : mardi 25 mars 2003 15:32 A : Phong Tran Tien Cc : ccielab@groupstudy.com Objet : Re: The number of CCIEs grows faster today
The program actually started in 93, next to me is CCIE 1040, I took mine 2 1/2 years after so I would say it is growing more quickly;)
Dave
Phong Tran Tien wrote: > Hi group, > > I see the truth that the number of CCIEs grows faster today than before. I took and passed the lab on 19 March, got the number #11285 and I notice that Mr Ozan Ocal, CCIE #11318, got his number on 22 March. It means that we have about 33 new CCIEs (11318-11285) in only 3 days (19 to 22 March). Someone told me that the number of new CCIEs is 400 each month this year, is it true? If it is true, in this year we will have about new 4,800 CCIEs. > > The CCIE program started in 1994 and up to this time, it's about 10 years long, and the total number of CCIEs in the world is now about 10,300 (the first CCIE got number 1025). It means that on average the number of CCIEs grows 1,030 each year (10,300/10). But compare with the number above, 4,800 this year, how do you think? Does this mean that, when the number of CCIEs increases faster, CCIE certification is easier to get and the value of the certification decreases? > > Tran Tien Phong > CCIE #11285 > >
-- David Madland CCIE# 2016 Sr. Network Engineer Qwest Communications 612-664-3367
I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me." --- General George S. Patton
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