From: David Ham (ccieau@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon Oct 21 2002 - 02:50:07 GMT-3
Nick,
Congraturations on passing the exam. With your knowledge and dedication, I
was sure that you will pass the exam without doubt.
Again congraturations...
Regards,
David Ham
9766
>From: "Nick Shah" <nshah@connect.com.au>
>Reply-To: "Nick Shah" <nshah@connect.com.au>
>To: "Cassidy D. Smith" <csmith@plannetconsulting.com>,
><ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>Subject: Re: Test taking strategy, organization and time management?
>Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 14:39:26 +1000
>
>Hello
>
>Your question has no best answers, it will generally depend upon your
>mental
>makeup, even though the study methodology may not seem to have any direct
>affect on the strategies of the 'D DAY' yet, it plays an imporant role in
>determining a MENTAL pattern which will be engraved into you in such a way,
>that your fingers will flow, and your mind will co ordinate.
>
>- Cisco does a very good job to PSYCHE you out, so the key is to tackle it
>in the same way you tackle any other FEAR, and that is FIGHT, lead an
>ORGANISED FIGHT. Be Ruthless, be unkind, TAKE NO PRISONERS. :)
>
>- Since you have already attempted once, you know whether lab drawing
>really
>helps or not, so decide whether you would do it again the next time. I
>didnt
>need it.
>
>- The last week (not more than that) before the test, you really have to
>get
>into the 'killer mood'. You have to practise bringing up an OSPF network
>consisting of 6-8 routers 3-4 areas, all with different authentication, 2-3
>virtual links etc. Try to do all this in 20 mins. (yes, its more than
>possible). Then move to BGP, practise only multihop sessions (because the
>direct sessions are straightforward) , use only route-maps (why, because
>they are lengthy) .. The idea is to 'sweat' as much in training so that you
>forget the 'pain' and your mind will establish a pattern when it sees that
>'lab diagram' and will immediately trigger a response and you will jump on
>the routers and do the necessary. Then UNLEASH THE MADNESS, redistribute,
>You must know redistribution 'dependencies', 'requirements' & 'snags' like
>the back of your hand. Practise 2 way or 3way redistribution with every
>routing protocol imaginable (Routopia 1 is good for this, even though the
>requirement doesnt state every2every redistribution, yet do it)
>
>- Dont do anything the last day, or atleast after midday. Take your mind
>off
>the lab. This is just to get you into a relaxed state of mind (not to slow
>you down, but rather to calm urself before you go and UNLEASH THE TERROR
>the
>next day). See a Killer movie the night before (gone are the days of seeing
>light movies before the lab). See the good guy killing all the baddies.
>Have a good night sleep.
>
>- My idea was to know every command sequence (not only commands, but their
>relevance and applicability to technology) for every routing protocol,
>ISDN,
>DLSW & IPX (not relevant anymore). This way, when I read the question, I
>know what command will be used to resolve the issue. This is particularly
>true of those 'corner questions' . By no way should this strategy be used
>in
>lieu of 'not knowing the technology thoroughly' (Knowing the technology
>thoroughly is the key & a prerequisite)
>
>- Spend first 15mins to read the whole lab, to get a idea. You 'dont' have
>to read slowly and understand at the first go (because your mind will be
>filled with lot of stuff, you will either PSYCHE yourself out or STRESS
>out). Just read enough to find out that you wont have to change your frame
>relay network from non-broadcast to P2P or something stupid like that.
>During this reading associate each router with what routing protocol will
>run on 'Which Router' . Do the reading in accordance with the lab diagram
>(you will have to twist the diagram page in a particular way to acheive
>this
>task :) , This will form a mental association between protocol & respective
>routers.
>
>- Do the same for VLANs & switch part. Usually, the ip addressing, VLAN
>association to router ports is intuitive (since you have done the actual
>lab, you will realise what I am saying).
>
>- After the first reading , read for about 2-3 mins. on each topic before
>working on it. Say you begin with either VLAN assignments or FRAME relay
>setup, read it fully (once again with the diagram in front) and then ATTACK
>IT. Complete ip addressing etc. ping it end to end DONE. Go to the next
>one,
>likewise in less than 20 mins or so you will be done with the L1, L2 & L3
>stuff (ip addressing) .
>
>- Then apply the same methodology with routing protocols, Read OSPF
>requirements (use the diagram again) associate mentally the areas with the
>r
>outers (remember ip addresses are already done), ATTACK once again. However
>once you finish the attack, go back and re read the requirements (1min
>prolly) so u havent missed anything. (This is not strictly required,
>because
>you are leaving about 2hrs. in the end to do this same thing)
>
>- Move onto the next TARGET. EIGRP/BGP/IPX/DLSW.
>
>- During ur initial reading you will find 1 or 2 routers will be the ones
>doing 2way or 3way redistribution. Those are the DEADLY ENEMY ZONE. Treat
>them with caution, remember the rules. Once the individual routing
>protocols
>are out of the way, you need to give urself about 20-30 mins for
>redistribution. Remember if you have done groundwork during the week b4 the
>exam, this should not take long. (You would know where you would need
>summaries, where you would need to use distribute lists/route maps, where
>you can use distance to overrule the route feedback)
>
>- Then move onto IPX (if applicable) or DLSW.
>
>- Just 5-10 mins. b4 lunch , do a write & reload. Go thru the unfinished
>items, and find one which can come and 'haunt' you. Read it thoroughly,
>this
>will be ur 'mate for lunch'
>
>- Target to have IGP & atleast DLSW (or IGP & BGP) to be up and running b4
>lunch. Then you will gain a big 'psychological advantage' . You will
>immediately find yourself very confident. After lunch, resume the attack.
>
>- The idea is to have 2 hrs. free atleast b4 finish time. So you can go and
>check everything again and again, nail the issues, nail the points , refer
>to the DOC CD etc. These 2 hrs, be ur own critic, and look real carefully
>for 'misunderstood questions' etc.
>
>I followed this 'regiment' and finished my lab in 4 hrs. (exactly at
>lunchtime). I took about 8-9 months to prepare for the lab, of which the
>first 3-4 months were just getting my feet wet and knowing whats fair game
>in CCIE LAB (which is basically everything thats there in IOS 12.1 config.
>& command reference except appletalk and lane & other topics explicitly
>removed).
>
>I sincerely hope that this does the task of motivating you to go in for
>the
>BIG KILL ..
>
>rgds
>Nick S.
>CCIE # 10474
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Cassidy D. Smith <csmith@plannetconsulting.com>
>To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 9:12 AM
>Subject: Test taking strategy, organization and time management?
>
>
> > I have read numerous posts that have discussed preparation, but not a
>lot
>of
> > folks talk about actual test taking style and organization.
> >
> > In my first attempt I spent a lot of time reading the lab and re-drawing
>the
> > lab diagrams. I got disorganized, and then ran out of time.
> >
> > Can anybody give some test taking pointers? What should you do to
>organize
> > yourself.. I have seen posts about creating check lists, if this is the
>way
> > to go can anyone give an example of what a checklist should look like?
> >
> > I am looking for ways to be fast yet thorough and maximize points.
> >
> > Thanks for all of your help!
> >
> > Casey
> >
> >
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