From: Michael Snyder (msnyder@xxxxxxx)
Date: Fri Jun 07 2002 - 21:23:29 GMT-3
This comes up every three months. Let me be brief.
Of course, knowledge leaks from the lab into this list. Also knowledge
from this list leaks into the test. I believe you would be hard pressed
to document the chicken and egg relationship.
Lets review some definitions.
We are a virtual community focusing in a scope of study of the knowledge
needed to pass the CCIE test.
The CCIE test is a test from a equipment manufacture who needs people
who know how to install their complex equipment in order to stay in
business.
That by itself is pretty clear cut. Let muddy the waters a bit.
There's some very smart people (some of them on this list) who are
working independently to create complex scenario's designed to mimic the
lab test. Another chicken and egg relationship. And don't forget the
1000 monkeys working 50 million years to write Shakespeare. I bet
there's some CCNA's who have lab'ed XYZ two years before it showed up on
the lab, and never knew it.
Surely the test writers wouldn't consider using new and interesting
memes from such a public forum. (If you don't know what a meme is, you
might want to look it up.)
Long story short, I'm not planning to break the NDA, nor do I indorse
any else breaking it. I've worked too hard to learn this knowledge, and
don't want to make it any easier on the people who come after me. It
would only devalue my work.
That said, if you have a CCIE level question about how to do XYZ, where
else would you ask it? Not in the 3com list. This is the place for such
questions. Remember our scope of study is anything that COULD be on the
test. Just like the scope of the test, is anything that COULD be done
with Cisco equipment.
Of course you could open a TAC case for every XYZ that you know is on
the test. Answers from Cisco could never be considered as breaking an
NDA.
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Jake
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:47 PM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Breaking NDA??
I need to configure XYZ. How do I do it?
(usually no background, but one time there was a brief and doubtful
reference to a work
project). No problem... right?
Problem is, those were all questions which are VERY unusual and
which I personally
happend to have had on my CCIE lab. Obviously, there are multiple tests
which Cisco
circulates (I heard something like 17 versions)... and I've only sat it
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