From: Jason T. Rohm (jtrohm@xxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Wed Nov 28 2001 - 18:20:57 GMT-3
My understanding of the legal implications are this:
If the underlaying infrastructure is leased from a telephone provider such
as digital circuits that are leased from AT&T, Sprint, etc. Then the toll
bypass is entirely legal because all tarrifs are being paid by the carrier
as part of the monthly charge for the circuit (regardless of what you are
running on it).
However, if your customer owns his/her own infrastructure that crosses
tarrif barriers (highly unlikely), and those circuits are being used for
toll-bypass, this would not be legal, unless the company registers itself as
a carrier and pays the applicable tarrifs themselves.
I have seen something similar to this where a local county government has
engineered a private fiber-optic network for data. They later used this data
network to carry voice in an effort to avoid intra-LATA LD service. This is
VERY illegal under my interpretation of the telephone competition laws.
Just My 2cents.
-Jason Rohm
CCIE #6861
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
Larson, Chris (Contractor)
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 2:45 PM
To: 'Dean, Justin'; 'ccielab@groupstudy.com'
Subject: RE: IP Telephony - Toll Bypass and Legal problems
I don't know why the TAC guy said that. I have worked for several
organizations that do toll bypass across the country. He may have been
referring to the need for some kind of 911 or 911E implementation. Maybe
someone can shed more light, but I know it is done A LOT. It is one of the
main reasons for an organization to implement VoIP. Toll Savings and or
messege unit savings.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dean, Justin [mailto:Justin.Dean@nrtinc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 12:00 PM
To: 'ccielab@groupstudy.com'
Subject: OT: IP Telephony - Toll Bypass and Legal problems
Does anyone have any information on the legalalities for doing toll bypass
via ip telephony. Basically what I am planning is to have several Call
Manager clusters, Gatekeepers, and voice gateways. The voice gateways will
be about 1000 2600's spread across the nation connected to the local PSTN. I
want to route all company calls to the gateway that is local to the calling
area and have it leave the local pstn to avoid all long distance charges. A
TAC engineer at Cisco just told me that there are legal reasons preventing
this. Does anyone have any info on this. Also, if anyone has any experience
in doing a large AVVID implementation and would like to give some advice
that would be much appreciated. Thanks,
Justin Dean, CCIE #7705, CCNP, CCDP
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