From: Wright, Jeremy (JA_WRIGHT@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Thu Oct 04 2001 - 15:58:00 GMT-3
I once flogged one of my employees for not including a permit ip any any at
the end of the access list...he knows it now...:-)
-----Original Message-----
From: Hotmail [mailto:jthao1@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 1:39 PM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: New R&S Exam Tidbits
My suspicions were correct. Cisco is overcompensating for
criticisms that
the one-day lab exam is easier; so they actually made it
harder than the
2-day exam. I guess it's good in the long run because that
will make the
certification more valuable, but in a sense, it's a little
unfair to us who
are still trying to get it. In all fairness, I think the
level of
difficulty should stay the same. I don't know how Cisco
could guarantee
that the level of difficulty stays the same without a
substantial beta
period; which to the best of my knowledge was not done.
Somebody correct me
on this if I'm mistaken.
Joseph
----- Original Message -----
From: "R. Scott King" <scking@cisco.com>
To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 2:09 PM
Subject: RE: New R&S Exam Tidbits
> Alright, enough already. Here's the skinny on the
one-day.
>
> If you're concerned that it wan't be as hard as the
two-day, stop
worrying.
> They've taken away all the stuff that any monkey could do
and replaced it
> with more in-depth coverage of harder topics (--so stop
studying on how to
> set up a term server. If you didn't know how to do that
you don't need to
> take this test anyway--go get some experience). When I
took the two-day,
I
> barely missed passing. I recently received my score for
the one-day (less
> that 24 hours later) and it wasn't even close. In other
words, this test
is
> harder.
>
> BGP and DLSW are worth twice as many points as on the
two-day, and there's
a
> reason for it. That's probably all I can say about that
without violating
> NDA.
>
> The time crunch was bad on the two day but now it's a
killer. There just
> isn't enough time to do all of it unless you know it cold.
Don't even
think
> you're going to look anything up on the CD, it isn't gonna
happen.
>
> Troubleshooting is NOT gone, it just takes a different
form now. If I
hear
> one more person complain that troubleshooting isn't on the
test anymore
I'm
> personally going to fly to his hometown and flog him with
a wet mop.
>
> Yes, you see the whole test on the first day and that
could lead to brain
> dumps but there were plently of guys doing that already
who had made it to
> the second day. This is not a new problem.
>
> My personal take on this situation, John, is that now that
you have your
> number you want the testing to stop so that no one else
gets it. That's
not
> going to happen. Cisco had a huge problem with backlog
and I think this
is
> as good a solution as they could have come up with. Cut
the time required
> in half, make it harder, fail as many people but get them
through the
system
> in half the time so you can accomodate more.
>
> Bottom line, the test is just as hard as it ever was. If
you've already
got
> the CCIE and you don't have anything to contribute to the
success of those
> of us who are still studying for it, get off this list and
find somewhere
> else to vent. This is a forum for test takers, not
industry analysts.
>
> Regards,
>
> Scott King
>
> P.S. Flames will be deleted and not answered. I don't
have time for
> whiners.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Kaberna [mailto:jkaberna@netcginc.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 4:59 PM
> To: Jim Brown; R. Scott King; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: New R&S Exam Tidbits
>
>
> The difference is that all the prior changes were to make
it harder and
> adjust to new technologies. This change is not for the
same reason. This
> change is to make the lab available to more candidates.
That is not a bad
> thing. But, I think that more racks should have been
added and a couple
> more proctors hired. Are we really to believe this would
be that
difficult?
> Do you guys really buy that line from Cisco that they
can't find a couple
> more proctors? There are quite a few unemployed CCIE's
that I personally
> know of. I'm sure they wouldn't mind a six figure job at
Cisco when the
> stock is nice and low.
>
> John Kaberna
> CCIE #7146
> NETCG Inc.
> Cisco Premier Partner
> www.netcginc.com
> (415) 750-3800
>
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