From: Martin, Chris (chris@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Thu Oct 04 2001 - 15:42:00 GMT-3
Good email Scott, thanks for your input, I take the test soon and im glad to
know that when I do pass it will be recognized as a well earned achievement.
I wouldn't worry about the input and sarcasm of the analysts you have
mentioned in your email. Those are the ones that don't really matter anyway.
Thanks for sharing your experience and input, im glad i have a test to face
thats harder then the previous one. :(
Take it easy
-C
----- Original Message -----
From: "R. Scott King" <scking@cisco.com>
To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:09 AM
Subject: RE: New R&S Exam Tidbits
> Alright, enough already. Here's the skinny on the one-day.
>
> If you're concerned that it wan't be as hard as the two-day, stop
worrying.
> They've taken away all the stuff that any monkey could do and replaced it
> with more in-depth coverage of harder topics (--so stop studying on how to
> set up a term server. If you didn't know how to do that you don't need to
> take this test anyway--go get some experience). When I took the two-day,
I
> barely missed passing. I recently received my score for the one-day (less
> that 24 hours later) and it wasn't even close. In other words, this test
is
> harder.
>
> BGP and DLSW are worth twice as many points as on the two-day, and there's
a
> reason for it. That's probably all I can say about that without violating
> NDA.
>
> The time crunch was bad on the two day but now it's a killer. There just
> isn't enough time to do all of it unless you know it cold. Don't even
think
> you're going to look anything up on the CD, it isn't gonna happen.
>
> Troubleshooting is NOT gone, it just takes a different form now. If I
hear
> one more person complain that troubleshooting isn't on the test anymore
I'm
> personally going to fly to his hometown and flog him with a wet mop.
>
> Yes, you see the whole test on the first day and that could lead to brain
> dumps but there were plently of guys doing that already who had made it to
> the second day. This is not a new problem.
>
> My personal take on this situation, John, is that now that you have your
> number you want the testing to stop so that no one else gets it. That's
not
> going to happen. Cisco had a huge problem with backlog and I think this
is
> as good a solution as they could have come up with. Cut the time required
> in half, make it harder, fail as many people but get them through the
system
> in half the time so you can accomodate more.
>
> Bottom line, the test is just as hard as it ever was. If you've already
got
> the CCIE and you don't have anything to contribute to the success of those
> of us who are still studying for it, get off this list and find somewhere
> else to vent. This is a forum for test takers, not industry analysts.
>
> Regards,
>
> Scott King
>
> P.S. Flames will be deleted and not answered. I don't have time for
> whiners.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Kaberna [mailto:jkaberna@netcginc.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 4:59 PM
> To: Jim Brown; R. Scott King; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: New R&S Exam Tidbits
>
>
> The difference is that all the prior changes were to make it harder and
> adjust to new technologies. This change is not for the same reason. This
> change is to make the lab available to more candidates. That is not a bad
> thing. But, I think that more racks should have been added and a couple
> more proctors hired. Are we really to believe this would be that
difficult?
> Do you guys really buy that line from Cisco that they can't find a couple
> more proctors? There are quite a few unemployed CCIE's that I personally
> know of. I'm sure they wouldn't mind a six figure job at Cisco when the
> stock is nice and low.
>
> John Kaberna
> CCIE #7146
> NETCG Inc.
> Cisco Premier Partner
> www.netcginc.com
> (415) 750-3800
>
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