From: Paul Andersen (pandersen3@xxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Thu Oct 04 2001 - 15:42:11 GMT-3
Actually, Cisco's FAQ on the new lab format infers exactly that. They are
going to make the lab concise, but you need to know the advanced stuff very
well. There ain't no jokin' around. And time is of the essense obviously, so
you won't have much time to "figure" things out. You either know it, or you
don't.
Paul Andersen
pandersen3@hotmail.com
>From: "Hotmail" <jthao1@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: "Hotmail" <jthao1@hotmail.com>
>To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>Subject: Re: New R&S Exam Tidbits
>Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 14:39:18 -0400
>
>My suspicions were correct. Cisco is overcompensating for criticisms that
>the one-day lab exam is easier; so they actually made it harder than the
>2-day exam. I guess it's good in the long run because that will make the
>certification more valuable, but in a sense, it's a little unfair to us who
>are still trying to get it. In all fairness, I think the level of
>difficulty should stay the same. I don't know how Cisco could guarantee
>that the level of difficulty stays the same without a substantial beta
>period; which to the best of my knowledge was not done. Somebody correct
>me
>on this if I'm mistaken.
>
>Joseph
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "R. Scott King" <scking@cisco.com>
>To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 2:09 PM
>Subject: RE: New R&S Exam Tidbits
>
>
> > Alright, enough already. Here's the skinny on the one-day.
> >
> > If you're concerned that it wan't be as hard as the two-day, stop
>worrying.
> > They've taken away all the stuff that any monkey could do and replaced
>it
> > with more in-depth coverage of harder topics (--so stop studying on how
>to
> > set up a term server. If you didn't know how to do that you don't need
>to
> > take this test anyway--go get some experience). When I took the
>two-day,
>I
> > barely missed passing. I recently received my score for the one-day
>(less
> > that 24 hours later) and it wasn't even close. In other words, this
>test
>is
> > harder.
> >
> > BGP and DLSW are worth twice as many points as on the two-day, and
>there's
>a
> > reason for it. That's probably all I can say about that without
>violating
> > NDA.
> >
> > The time crunch was bad on the two day but now it's a killer. There
>just
> > isn't enough time to do all of it unless you know it cold. Don't even
>think
> > you're going to look anything up on the CD, it isn't gonna happen.
> >
> > Troubleshooting is NOT gone, it just takes a different form now. If I
>hear
> > one more person complain that troubleshooting isn't on the test anymore
>I'm
> > personally going to fly to his hometown and flog him with a wet mop.
> >
> > Yes, you see the whole test on the first day and that could lead to
>brain
> > dumps but there were plently of guys doing that already who had made it
>to
> > the second day. This is not a new problem.
> >
> > My personal take on this situation, John, is that now that you have your
> > number you want the testing to stop so that no one else gets it. That's
>not
> > going to happen. Cisco had a huge problem with backlog and I think this
>is
> > as good a solution as they could have come up with. Cut the time
>required
> > in half, make it harder, fail as many people but get them through the
>system
> > in half the time so you can accomodate more.
> >
> > Bottom line, the test is just as hard as it ever was. If you've already
>got
> > the CCIE and you don't have anything to contribute to the success of
>those
> > of us who are still studying for it, get off this list and find
>somewhere
> > else to vent. This is a forum for test takers, not industry analysts.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Scott King
> >
> > P.S. Flames will be deleted and not answered. I don't have time for
> > whiners.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Kaberna [mailto:jkaberna@netcginc.com]
> > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 4:59 PM
> > To: Jim Brown; R. Scott King; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: New R&S Exam Tidbits
> >
> >
> > The difference is that all the prior changes were to make it harder and
> > adjust to new technologies. This change is not for the same reason.
>This
> > change is to make the lab available to more candidates. That is not a
>bad
> > thing. But, I think that more racks should have been added and a couple
> > more proctors hired. Are we really to believe this would be that
>difficult?
> > Do you guys really buy that line from Cisco that they can't find a
>couple
> > more proctors? There are quite a few unemployed CCIE's that I
>personally
> > know of. I'm sure they wouldn't mind a six figure job at Cisco when the
> > stock is nice and low.
> >
> > John Kaberna
> > CCIE #7146
> > NETCG Inc.
> > Cisco Premier Partner
> > www.netcginc.com
> > (415) 750-3800
> >
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