From: Jeff Kesemeyer (jkesemey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Mon Oct 01 2001 - 19:43:34 GMT-3
Actually it started with #1024.
Where kilohertz starts, "it's either going to kill or hurt them ."
Started by TAC as a who knows more type test.
I believe #1024 is for the lab itself.
I know Terry Slattery #1026 was the second.
He was in charge of a rewrite of the operating system, from that learned
ever command very well.
Since he was a consultant he was also the first non-Cisco employee to get
it.
Jeff Kesemeyer
CCNP, CCDP, MCSE, CNE
www.bradshawlabs.com
"Your CCIE Rack Rental Source"
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
Monty.Majszak@Level3.com
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 6:18 PM
To: bruce@williamsnetworking.com; Jim.Brown@CaseLogic.com;
jkaberna@netcginc.com; scking@cisco.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: New R&S Exam Tidbits
Bravo, well said guys. It's Cisco's cert and it appears as though they're
going to do what they like with it so there's no point in sitting around
griping about it. Stupid question, but anyone know who the very first CCIE
was and if so if there still around, just curious. The first one would be
1001 right? Didn't they start at that #?
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Williams [mailto:bruce@williamsnetworking.com]
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 3:59 PM
To: Jim Brown; 'John Kaberna'; R. Scott King; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: New R&S Exam Tidbits
That is a good point about the early CCIE Labs. If they decided to let us
bring notes and stuff into the Lab now, we would all say that it is too
easy. However, in reality it was extremely difficult back then and it always
will be. I guess we dont really have to worry about the CCIE losing it's
value.
Bruce
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Brown" <Jim.Brown@CaseLogic.com>
To: "'John Kaberna'" <jkaberna@netcginc.com>; "R. Scott King"
<scking@cisco.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 5:40 PM
Subject: RE: New R&S Exam Tidbits
> The test has been in a state of change since its inception. In the days of
> yesteryear....
>
> Candidates received all the material from the get go. You could go home
and
> research topics on the test and come back then next day and complete.
>
> Candidates could bring in laptops with them to use for configuration with
> any digital material they desired.
>
> You could haul in any paper configs, books, or notes to take the exam.
>
> How about the CCIE's who took their exam during the early 90's on 5-6 AGS
> routers with 10.0 code? Voice over X, IPSec, and other crazy features?
>
> The exam is in just another state of flux. Anybody that tells me it is
worth
> less know than it was a few years back is high. There are more features,
> more material to cover, and more hardware.
>
> One day, two day, who cares. It is your skill and knowledge that will
carry
> you. I will consider the cert proof of my ability to learn and comprehend
> new technologies.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Kaberna [mailto:jkaberna@netcginc.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 3:12 PM
> To: R. Scott King; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: New R&S Exam Tidbits
>
>
> Caslow and Remaker have both given their opinions about it. Caslow
admitted
> that there will be less topics (problem #1). TS is gone and even if they
> change IP address or cables big deal (problem #2). People will now be
able
> to see the entire test without earning each section (problem #3). There
> won't be a face-to-face debrief for people to potentially argue some
points
> (problem #4).
>
> You can argue that what I'm saying isn't true. At one point people argued
> the world was flat too. Everything I just said is fact except for
Caslow's
> opinion. I think that his opinion on this subject should be weighed very
> strongly though.
>
> John Kaberna
> CCIE #7146
> NETCG Inc.
> Cisco Premier Partner
> www.netcginc.com
> (415) 750-3800
>
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