From: Ken Yeo (kenyeo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Thu Apr 19 2001 - 14:51:04 GMT-3
Since there is not NT server available, NT domain is not an option.
Another thought is install NETBEUI on all workstations and bridge NETBEUI
traffice across the serial link and route IP. But as you said, it is not a
good design because it forwards broadcasts across the serial link.
Attached is the ip helper portion of the config, it is not working. Any
ideas?
R1:
interface Ethernet0/0
ip address 172.30.1.1 255.255.255.0
ip helper-address 172.16.0.9
ip helper-address 172.30.0.255
no ip directed-broadcast
ipx helper-address 1000.0000.f4af.003c
ipx network 2502C01
R2:
interface FastEthernet1/0
ip address 172.30.0.1 255.255.255.0
ip helper-address 172.16.0.9
ip helper-address 172.30.1.255
no ip directed-broadcast
duplex auto
speed 10
ipx helper-address 1000.0000.f4af.003c
ipx network 2501C01
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Pickell, Aaryn" <Aaryn.Pickell@getronics.com>
To: "'Vijay Venkatesh'" <vijay.venkatesh@usa.net>; "Ken Yeo"
<kenyeo@on-linecorp.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 3:30 PM
Subject: RE: [Network Neighborhood - Multiple Subnets - Workgroup only - No
Domain.]
> As far as getting all routers to see each other in Network Neighborhood,
> using ip helper-address is the cisco-centric fix. Per Microsoft, the fix
is
> to use a domain model instead of a workgroup model.
>
> Ip helper was meant to forward UDP broadcasts, including but not limited
to
> bootp. By default, there are a bunch of ports that will be forwarded
(tftp,
> netbios, bootp, etc.), and you can add more ports (or remove existing
ports)
> to the list with the ip forward-protocol command.
>
> By using this for windows browsing, though... you're going to consume a
lot
> of your WAN bandwidth, because all windows netbios traffic is going to be
> forwarded in all directions, not just the master browser elections.
>
> Ken, what you wrote should have worked. The theory is sound, anyway. If
> you forward me your configs, maybe we can figure out what was missing.
>
> Aaryn Pickell - CCNP, CCDP, MCSE
> Senior Engineer - Routing Protocols
> Getronics Inc.
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vijay Venkatesh [mailto:vijay.venkatesh@usa.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 3:01 PM
> > To: Ken Yeo; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: [Network Neighborhood - Multiple Subnets -
> > Workgroup only -
> > No Domain.]
> >
> >
> > Old issue -
> > see the archives -
> >
> > Solution: Use WINS
> > ip helpers are for DHCP only. read up on the standards doc.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Vijay.
> >
> >
> > "Ken Yeo" <kenyeo@on-linecorp.com> wrote:
> > > Question:
> > >
> > > 4 subnets seperated by Cisco routers. Running Netware 5.1
> > servers in all
> > > location. No NT servers. All windows 95 workstations in all
> > branches are
> > setup
> > > with the same workgroup name, WORKGROUP. All workstations
> > use the same WINS
> > > server. Netbios name resolution to IP is fine.
> > >
> > > How need to be done so that if I open network neighborhood,
> > I can see all
> > > Windows 95 workstations in all locations?
> > >
> > > Here is my understanding:
> > >
> > > Browser election will occur in each subnet and one of the Windows 95
> > > workstations will become master browser for the WORKGROUP
> > on the local
> > > subnet.
> > >
> > > Since browser elections are broadcast, the are blocked by
> > router and thus
> > each
> > > master browser does not know about other master browsers in
> > all other
> > subnets.
> > > So we can only see local workstations in network neighborhood.
> > >
> > > So I tried these:
> > >
> > > Enable ip helpder-address 172.16.1.255 (LAN masks are
> > 24-bit)in all LAN
> > > interfaces and point to each other. I hope that ip
> > helper-address will
> > forward
> > > netbios broadcast to all subnets and trick the workstations
> > there is only
> > one
> > > network. So only one master browser instead of four master
> > browsers were
> > > elected. But it does not work and workstations from another
> > subnets will
> > not
> > > showing in network neighborhood.
> > >
> > > I have not tried browstat.exe yet..
> > >
> > > What do you think? Please advice,
> > > Ken
> > > **Please read:http://www.groupstudy.com/list/posting.html
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